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DeSean Wants Out

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Bottom post of the previous page:

Thank him for the Bucs game and wish him happy trails. Has always been a me first cancer. Rams don’t need him or the headache
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harkin wrote: October 30th, 2021, 8:21 am
Rampager66 wrote: October 29th, 2021, 9:04 pm Lets try and get Cooks back before GB does. Houston just moved their RB and are moving on from Watson, who was probably a huge part of why he went there.... and word is he wants out now too...
I love Cooks and he’s performing huge for a bad team but

1) He’s too expensive.
2) McVay already has enough WRs.

We were told VJ was the fastest player at the Senior Bowl and Atwell is supposed to be even faster.

McVay is supposed to be an offensive genius. An offensive genius would be able to use two very good and very fast receivers WHO ARE ALREADY ON THE ROSTER to fill in for a player he never should have brought in in the first place.
Well put...
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NorCal RF wrote: October 30th, 2021, 9:10 am
Rampager66 wrote: October 29th, 2021, 9:04 pm Lets try and get Cooks back before GB does. Houston just moved their RB and are moving on from Watson, who was probably a huge part of why he went there.... and word is he wants out now too...
Why? So he can be the 4th receiver? He isn’t playing much with this teams top #3 still on roster.
I would suggest he would bump VJ to No. 4 if they were to pick him up, but I doubt it happens with the way the passing game is working. There really isn't a need, which is why you would make a move in the 1st place....
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They can’t afford Cooks and they don’t need him (aka WR is not a team need),

My gosh we can’t even find playing time for a prima donna free agent and our top draft pick.
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Rampager66 wrote: October 30th, 2021, 8:16 pm
NorCal RF wrote: October 30th, 2021, 9:10 am Why? So he can be the 4th receiver? He isn’t playing much with this teams top #3 still on roster.
I would suggest he would bump VJ to No. 4 if they were to pick him up, but I doubt it happens with the way the passing game is working. There really isn't a need, which is why you would make a move in the 1st place....
There isn’t a need agree………

Why as fans we would want VJ to be given less snaps is baffling. The kid is having a solid year and is only going to get better……….
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We see the downside of trying to acquire every offensive toy on the market. There is only one ball to go around.
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It would be a huge, HUGE mistake to use the freed up cap space on another wr. Need a big bodied defensive presence, or a DB.
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I never understood signing a 34 year old wide receiver in the first place? The man is done as a top notch guy. Especially when he is forth on the depth chart.
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NorCal RF wrote: October 30th, 2021, 10:09 pm
Rampager66 wrote: October 30th, 2021, 8:16 pm I would suggest he would bump VJ to No. 4 if they were to pick him up, but I doubt it happens with the way the passing game is working. There really isn't a need, which is why you would make a move in the 1st place....
There isn’t a need agree………

Why as fans we would want VJ to be given less snaps is baffling. The kid is having a solid year and is only going to get better……….
If they're both on the roster I'm going with Cookie but since they're not, Go VJ or whoever else is in the uni. I do get where you are coming from, from a development standpoint, what he's shown and what's already been invested in VJ to this point.
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Rampager66 wrote: October 29th, 2021, 9:04 pm Lets try and get Cooks back before GB does. Houston just moved their RB and are moving on from Watson, who was probably a huge part of why he went there.... and word is he wants out now too...
no way is that ever going to happen
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ocram23 wrote: October 31st, 2021, 9:22 am
Rampager66 wrote: October 29th, 2021, 9:04 pm Lets try and get Cooks back before GB does. Houston just moved their RB and are moving on from Watson, who was probably a huge part of why he went there.... and word is he wants out now too...
no way is that ever going to happen
I know bro, it was just a thought for the moment. ;)
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I am having second thoughts on cutting Jackson if we don’t trade him. Why would we let him go to another playoff team…especially in the NFC. I would hate to see him go to GB. Not to mention he knows our playbook.
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With TuTu gone. Wonder if he can return punts - LOL ???
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I say keep his ass, despite the request, for these reasons:

1) Added depth to an outstanding WR corp for the RAMs!

2) Trade to who? The only ones interested in him are teams that are contending, we should not improve our potential opponent. DeShawn Jackson is that good, he could make us regret the trade.

3) Jackson will thanks us at the end of the season, when we win the Super Bowl!
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I’m guessing everyone is waiting for us to cut him. I’ve already read that if he isn’t traded then he’s going to be cut. If that’s the case, why would any team want to give up anything to get him. He’s going to cry anywhere he plays if he doesn’t get the ball enough.
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Tough situation. I don’t want him to poison the locker room but I also don’t want him helping a contender. Also, he will be good to have if we have any injuries.

Why does he have to me such a “ME” person. I hate that attitude.
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Bulldawg wrote: November 1st, 2021, 5:14 pm Tough situation. I don’t want him to poison the locker room but I also don’t want him helping a contender. Also, he will be good to have if we have any injuries.

Why does he have to me such a “ME” person. I hate that attitude.
He can't help it. These type of guys are in every sport and they are good with it being about the team as long as people don't forget that team has a "m" and "e" in it.
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Calvin Ridley is going to miss a few weeks or more due to emotional stress.

Trade D Jack to atl for Patterson.

Kick off and punt returner, and a guy who can run deep routes or run the ball
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Performance based contracts aren't the easiest to trade. If he makes a target do the Rams pay part of the bonus? I would expect any team taking him to pay everything other than salary already earned but it'll be for a nothing pick in 2024 + a very low performance based pick. Then again I don't see who would want him in Week 9. Maybe a team with cap to burn?
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Fearsome Foursome wrote: November 1st, 2021, 4:29 pm I say keep his ass, despite the request, for these reasons:

1) Added depth to an outstanding WR corp for the RAMs!

2) Trade to who? The only ones interested in him are teams that are contending, we should not improve our potential opponent. DeShawn Jackson is that good, he could make us regret the trade.

3) Jackson will thanks us at the end of the season, when we win the Super Bowl!
4) Tutu Atwell is out for shoulder surgery, have Jackson return punts?!!! Problem solved! He can catch well and still has speed!!!
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Fearsome Foursome wrote: November 1st, 2021, 6:19 pm
Fearsome Foursome wrote: November 1st, 2021, 4:29 pm I say keep his ass, despite the request, for these reasons:

1) Added depth to an outstanding WR corp for the RAMs!

2) Trade to who? The only ones interested in him are teams that are contending, we should not improve our potential opponent. DeShawn Jackson is that good, he could make us regret the trade.

3) Jackson will thanks us at the end of the season, when we win the Super Bowl!
4) Tutu Atwell is out for shoulder surgery, have Jackson return punts?!!! Problem solved! He can catch well and still has speed!!!
Desean was the punt returner vs the Lions, he still wanted a trade days after.
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Keep De Shawn Jackson:

1) add depth to WRs
2) don't trade to competitor in playoffs
3) use as punt and kick returns
4) he will thank us after we win super bowl w a ring of his own
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Fearsome Foursome wrote: November 1st, 2021, 7:07 pm Keep De Shawn Jackson:

1) add depth to WRs
2) don't trade to competitor in playoffs
3) use as punt and kick returns
4) he will thank us after we win super bowl w a ring of his own
He doesn’t want to be here………

He isn’t needed. Did you see Skow yesterday……..
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NorCal RF wrote: November 1st, 2021, 7:13 pm
Fearsome Foursome wrote: November 1st, 2021, 7:07 pm Keep De Shawn Jackson:

1) add depth to WRs
2) don't trade to competitor in playoffs
3) use as punt and kick returns
4) he will thank us after we win super bowl w a ring of his own
He doesn’t want to be here………

He isn’t needed. Did you see Skow yesterday……..
I like Skow but rather keep Desean too. It's not over until its over.
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Cornell29 wrote: November 1st, 2021, 7:32 pm
NorCal RF wrote: November 1st, 2021, 7:13 pm He doesn’t want to be here………

He isn’t needed. Did you see Skow yesterday……..
I like Skow but rather keep Desean too. It's not over until its over.
Why would we want to keep a 34 year old who has contributed hardly nothing, who is complaining, and doesn’t want to be here?

McVay from day one has been team period. You have someone like Woods who from day one could care less about himself and his stats. Just wants to win. You don’t cater to DJAX period. Hit the road!
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NorCal RF wrote: November 1st, 2021, 8:15 pm
Cornell29 wrote: November 1st, 2021, 7:32 pm I like Skow but rather keep Desean too. It's not over until its over.
Why would we want to keep a 34 year old who has contributed hardly nothing, who is complaining, and doesn’t want to be here?

McVay from day one has been team period. You have someone like Woods who from day one could care less about himself and his stats. Just wants to win. You don’t cater to DJAX period. Hit the road!
I wouldn't force him to stay bc I wouldn't want the issues in the locker room. I'm just hoping D Jack think this through and realize what he is risking losing out on and can work this out with Mcvay.
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Cornell29 wrote: November 1st, 2021, 9:02 pm
NorCal RF wrote: November 1st, 2021, 8:15 pm Why would we want to keep a 34 year old who has contributed hardly nothing, who is complaining, and doesn’t want to be here?

McVay from day one has been team period. You have someone like Woods who from day one could care less about himself and his stats. Just wants to win. You don’t cater to DJAX period. Hit the road!
I wouldn't force him to stay bc I wouldn't want the issues in the locker room. I'm just hoping D Jack think this through and realize what he is risking losing out on and can work this out with Mcvay.
Desean doesn't understand who he is and what his role should be. He was brought here to stretch the field. Make a couple of big plays. How did he not know that? He simply cannot be relied on to be anything more than that. He is still fast but an injury waiting to happen. He just can't be that guy that you throw to 90 times anymore. He should just have fun and stay healthy. Stay happy and maybe make a big catch in the playoffs or super bowl.
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Rammer wrote: November 2nd, 2021, 7:18 am
Cornell29 wrote: November 1st, 2021, 9:02 pm I wouldn't force him to stay bc I wouldn't want the issues in the locker room. I'm just hoping D Jack think this through and realize what he is risking losing out on and can work this out with Mcvay.
Desean doesn't understand who he is and what his role should be. He was brought here to stretch the field. Make a couple of big plays. How did he not know that? He simply cannot be relied on to be anything more than that. He is still fast but an injury waiting to happen. He just can't be that guy that you throw to 90 times anymore. He should just have fun and stay healthy. Stay happy and maybe make a big catch in the playoffs or super bowl.
Agreed

When he was getting more snaps he quickly got injured the last couple of years. Rams limit his snaps, to keep him fresh all year and now he is upset he isnt getting enough snaps.
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bigklein wrote: November 1st, 2021, 8:08 pm If things are beyond repair, maybe Chicago would be open to trading Jakeem Grant for Jackson. He’s paid less than Jackson. When Grant was with Miami he shredded the Rams on a punt return.

I don’t know…

Btw, Koski returned punts a little bit for Cal Poly.
Trading for Grant would be a solid move………..
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