It’s Raheem

[RAMFAN71]

Bottom post of the previous page:

This change either has not gelled yet, or it is just a step in the wrong direction. Morris IMO should have not tinkered with last season's #1. The loss of JJ and Hill may have forced it, but maybe not. DW and Fuller are playing much worse....and Rapp too. And again, our ILB cannot cover. So.....add it all up and theres gonna be problems.

[NorCal RF]

Aikman nailed it last night when he said no offense goes 98 yards on the Rams D last year…………

Pass coverage is garbage period. No one can cover anyone between DB’s n LB’s other than Ramsey.

McVay has a new big time concern on what will prevent him for winning it all and this year and this year it’s more than one player……….

What's most noticeable to my "layman" eyes is the drop off in play from Darious Williams. Got his pay on RFA Contract, but I doubt we take the next step with him.

He hasn’t been good which is surprising. Not sure this moving corners around in coverage benefits him as a young CB

[NorCal RF]

Aikman nailed it last night when he said no offense goes 98 yards on the Rams D last year…………

Pass coverage is garbage period. No one can cover anyone between DB’s n LB’s other than Ramsey.

McVay has a new big time concern on what will prevent him for winning it all and this year and this year it’s more than one player……….

another head scratcher is Morris's scheme to not match Ramsey up with their #1. that worked last year. I thought Ramsey vs Metcalf would have been must see TV and more importantly maybe Ramsey would have limited him to only 1 TD. Yes I know Metcalf did score one on Ramsey. Just don't understand why Morris won't do that. He has Williams trying to guard Metalf which is silly

Agree. It’s not working with the other CB’s.

It’s being “advertised” as taking advantage of Ramsey’s skill by moving him around but I’m afraid it’s more Morris not wanting to deal with him being bored. To that I say BS let him be bored while going back to eliminated the other teams best receiver.

[RamPower]

This clearly isn't last year's defense (yet anyway). That said, we've played a few pretty stout offenses. AZ (#1 offense), and Brady…and Wilson (who was having a good year). Still pretty early in the season for true evaluation via sample size, but our schedule does level out a bit toward potentially favoring our defense.

The Geno Smith success was frustrating of course. But this is still the NFL. Teams can score. Were weren't even getting the pressure on Smith we got on Wilson - were SEA players stepping up a notch with Wilson down? Regardless, we've seen this back-up success many times in the NFL = didn't weekly game plan for this guy at all.

But Wilson was having a good year. Our D looked pretty good against him. I mean that game was a divisional war. Pretty much like the playoffs in my estimation. Small sample size yet again, but we looked better overall against Wilson then I thought SF did last week (I recorded the game and watched it all). The Rams are simply better than SEA & SF at this point IMO. SEA defense definitely stepped up for last night's big game (because it usually sucks), but I haven't seen much yet from the whiner defense that should scare our O.

But yeah we have some tough offenses to face overall, and I can't see this defense likely reaching top 10. But it can improve, and sure, even be good. With our offense, we are still legit Super Bowl contenders. We just need to grow and foremost stay healthy.

SEA only scored 17 points last night btw...

[EastBayRamsFan]

Are you suggesting that FS Rapp can actually slide over and help on pass coverage?

Rapp always seemed to play in 2 minute prevent mode. I also think this team really misses SS John Johnson.

[RamPower]

Are you suggesting that FS Rapp can actually slide over and help on pass coverage?

Rapp always seemed to play in 2 minute prevent mode. I also think this team really misses SS John Johnson.

Rapp is an in -the-box guy. Had 12 tackles against (led the team) vs. AZ. He just seems slow in coverage (he has also saved some TD's tho). Keep him in the box (TE's) and use him in more specific packages I'd say.

[Cornell29]

Are you suggesting that FS Rapp can actually slide over and help on pass coverage?

Rapp always seemed to play in 2 minute prevent mode. I also think this team really misses SS John Johnson.

Rapp is an in -the-box guy. Had 12 tackles against (led the team) vs. AZ. He just seems slow in coverage (he has also saved some TD's tho). Keep him in the box (TE's) and use him in more specific packages I'd say.

On passing downs, Ramsey should be a corner or safety and Rapp should be the guy in the box.

[RamPower]

Rapp is an in -the-box guy. Had 12 tackles against (led the team) vs. AZ. He just seems slow in coverage (he has also saved some TD's tho). Keep him in the box (TE's) and use him in more specific packages I'd say.

On passing downs, Ramsey should be a corner or safety and Rapp should be the guy in the box.

I don't know what the thinking is on mixing plays, keeping an offense confused and (wrongly guessing) what an offense is going to run on any specific play...but all teams make mistakes on play calls (not to mention purely blown coverages), and yes, I agree about Ramsey staying on Metcalf all night (and certainly not Rapp).

But...17 points

[RAMFAN71]

The screen out to Collins/Dallas was a 15 yard play whenever they ran it. Morris had no answer. I just don't see his strategy and discipline out there. We stay way too far off the LOS most of the time. If our guys are too slow or lack the agility to play closer, then we need new talent. But I think it just needs proper DC to set it up.

And where is Burgess? I keep saying it. WTF is going on there. Zero snaps?

[Cornell29]

On passing downs, Ramsey should be a corner or safety and Rapp should be the guy in the box.

I don't know what the thinking is on mixing plays, keeping an offense confused and (wrongly guessing) what an offense is going to run on any specific play...but all teams make mistakes on play calls (not to mention purely blown coverages), and yes, I agree about Ramsey staying on Metcalf all night (and certainly not Rapp).

But...17 points

End result was good, I just don't like some of the choices Morris makes. Another example is Rochell covering Metcalf, late game, without help.
With that said, there is plenty of time to fix the d issues.

[ocram23]

another head scratcher is Morris's scheme to not match Ramsey up with their #1. that worked last year. I thought Ramsey vs Metcalf would have been must see TV and more importantly maybe Ramsey would have limited him to only 1 TD. Yes I know Metcalf did score one on Ramsey. Just don't understand why Morris won't do that. He has Williams trying to guard Metalf which is silly

Agree. It’s not working with the other CB’s.

It’s being “advertised” as taking advantage of Ramsey’s skill by moving him around but I’m afraid it’s more Morris not wanting to deal with him being bored. To that I say BS let him be bored while going back to eliminated the other teams best receiver.

who's running this team??? so we have to make sure JR is playing the defense he wants to play vs doing what's best for the team? Rochelle and Williams aren't getting it done and Williams got hurt last night if I remember correctly. Stafford is going to have to score a lot of pts to win games

[Cornell29]

This defense will not finish top 10....I would put a forum buck on it

Fox showed the defense ranking at 27 last night...no way they climb from 27-10

I prefer PPG compared to yards. In which we are 13th.

But if you are using that metric then you might be right.

Yeah I am more of a ppg guy myself too. For o and d.

[NorCal RF]

Agree. It’s not working with the other CB’s.

It’s being “advertised” as taking advantage of Ramsey’s skill by moving him around but I’m afraid it’s more Morris not wanting to deal with him being bored. To that I say BS let him be bored while going back to eliminated the other teams best receiver.

who's running this team??? so we have to make sure JR is playing the defense he wants to play vs doing what's best for the team? Rochelle and Williams aren't getting it done and Williams got hurt last night if I remember correctly. Stafford is going to have to score a lot of pts to win games

I think we are actually agreeing……..

[Cornell29]

[malibu]

JJ is missed

JJ >>> Rapp
2020 Fuller > 2021 Fuller

Yup ... AND

2020 williams > 2021 williams

Maybe it is the scheme ..... too many players doing worse than last year ....has to be the scheme .

Totally agree. I have said it was the scheme.

[Cornell29]

[ocram23]

who said that Morris is moving JR around because he doesn't want him to get bored??? I hope this story is BS

[NorCal RF]

who said that Morris is moving JR around because he doesn't want him to get bored??? I hope this story is BS

Speculation on my part. It has been mentioned in broadcasts as well as on the radio that how he has been used prior to this year had him that. Those who cover the sport have heard this in fact heard it from him.

You have to ask yourself why the change with Morris when him shutting down one side of the field was successful………………..

[haroldjackson]

Yes but Rochell one on one vs Metcalf was inexcusable.

Why do he keep running Rapp out there all game?

Yup that was unbelievable . He is trying to be too cute really . Ramsey should cover wr1 ALL GAME . Rapp is a big liability . But Fuller doesn't seem to be much better . I knew losing hill and JJ3 would hurt us but I didn't think it would hurt us THAT much . Combine losing those 2 , with a mediocre DC and there you go . Recipe for disaster . Watching their back up having all day to throw and picking that secondary apart was disgusting .

I agree losing JJ especially really hurt us. He's the one free agent we should have prioritized. He was the qb of our defense, and we just don't defend the back end like we did last year. I think we may have gotten along w/o Hill, but losing JJ was inexcusable.

[brasilrams]

Yup that was unbelievable . He is trying to be too cute really . Ramsey should cover wr1 ALL GAME . Rapp is a big liability . But Fuller doesn't seem to be much better . I knew losing hill and JJ3 would hurt us but I didn't think it would hurt us THAT much . Combine losing those 2 , with a mediocre DC and there you go . Recipe for disaster . Watching their back up having all day to throw and picking that secondary apart was disgusting .

I agree losing JJ especially really hurt us. He's the one free agent we should have prioritized. He was the qb of our defense, and we just don't defend the back end like we did last year. I think we may have gotten along w/o Hill, but losing JJ was inexcusable.

exactly . Love me some Floyd but with the money we gave him we could have re-signed JJ3 AND Hill .

[NorCal RF]

I agree losing JJ especially really hurt us. He's the one free agent we should have prioritized. He was the qb of our defense, and we just don't defend the back end like we did last year. I think we may have gotten along w/o Hill, but losing JJ was inexcusable.

exactly . Love me some Floyd but with the money we gave him we could have re-signed JJ3 AND Hill .

This ^

[brasilrams]

exactly . Love me some Floyd but with the money we gave him we could have re-signed JJ3 AND Hill .

Floyd's better and more important than them. Rams made right choice choosing Floyd over JJ.

Don't agree my man , our secondary is a HUGE mess after JJ3 left , . He was the signal caller , the QB of our defense . Rapp , burgess and Fuller don't even come close to him . We could have kept our secondary the way it was , by signing JJ3 and Hill . We had the number 1 ranked defense against the pass and I think we are something like 25th now .

[Rams since '66]

I prefer PPG compared to yards. In which we are 13th.

But if you are using that metric then you might be right.

Yeah I am more of a ppg guy myself too. For o and d.

I am more of a wins & losses guy and not being facetious.
If you are successfully running a ball control offense and time of possession like against Seattle, you hold down the other team's points and yards.
If you are quick strike or three and out, you give the other team more time, hence more opportunity for yards & points.
If you get out to big leads the other team tends to rack up garbage time points and yards.

[RAMFAN71]

Can't keep everyone, and as BrooklynRam said, we would spring a leak somewhere. We also thought we were deep at S/CB. We have Rapp, Burgess, DW, Fuller. And Had Long/Scott on roster too. I still blame the DC. We have talent.

[haroldjackson]

exactly . Love me some Floyd but with the money we gave him we could have re-signed JJ3 AND Hill .

Floyd's better and more important than them. Rams made right choice choosing Floyd over JJ.

Floyd's good & it would have been nice to keep J.J., Hill & Brockers. Perhaps we could have saved some money by cutting A'Shawn Robinson, and keeping those three instead. I'm rooting for Robinson to make a big impact, but I haven't seen it thus far. I think we could have gotten another good year out of Brockers, and perhaps that would have made Donald happy, as he liked playing along side Brockers.

[brasilrams]

Don't agree my man , our secondary is a HUGE mess after JJ3 left , . He was the signal caller , the QB of our defense . Rapp , burgess and Fuller don't even come close to him . We could have kept our secondary the way it was , by signing JJ3 and Hill . We had the number 1 ranked defense against the pass and I think we are something like 25th now .

I hear ya Brother, but without Floyd we have a bunch of injury-prone pass rushers (Obo, Lewis). I guess either way we go we would spring a leak though. BTW, JJ + Hill and they still gave up 47 last Sunday.

yup ,they ate 47 , that is true . We just gotta hope our team can fix this secondary somehow , this could be a real problem when facing playoff teams .

[ocram23]

who said that Morris is moving JR around because he doesn't want him to get bored??? I hope this story is BS

Speculation on my part. It has been mentioned in broadcasts as well as on the radio that how he has been used prior to this year had him that. Those who cover the sport have heard this in fact heard it from him.

You have to ask yourself why the change with Morris when him shutting down one side of the field was successful………………..

he needs to coach and not worry about what JR thinks. do what is best for the team not JR

[Cornell29]

[Cornell29]

[therealheadslap75]

I will be happy as can be to sing Raheem's praises if he can slow down Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, George Kittle and Aaron Rodgers and we get to the big dance, I just think he needs to prove he can defend an offense with multiple threats

[Cornell29]

I will be happy as can be to sing Raheem's praises if he can slow down Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, George Kittle and Aaron Rodgers and we get to the big dance, I just think he needs to prove he can defend an offense with multiple threats

He did slow down RW and Metcalf. Seattle offense at the time was one of the better offenses in the nfl.