Rookie TE Ferguson : what is going on ?

[Cornell29]

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Ferg was open for a td, Stafford missed him

[brasilrams]

He was wide open for a Td today and Stafford missed him. But later Stafford threw a very catchable ball to him in the end zone and he dropped it.

[Cornell29]

He was wide open for a Td today and Stafford missed him. But later Stafford threw a very catchable ball to him in the end zone and he dropped it.

Yeah, I still think that was a catch bc he had it secured when his knee hit the ground.

[ocram23]

He was wide open for a Td today and Stafford missed him. But later Stafford threw a very catchable ball to him in the end zone and he dropped it.

you could argue it was a catch
it would not classify that as a drop. defensive player made a great play on it

[brasilrams]

He was wide open for a Td today and Stafford missed him. But later Stafford threw a very catchable ball to him in the end zone and he dropped it.

you could argue it was a catch
it would not classify that as a drop. defensive player made a great play on it

Agree to disagree. Imo he should have caught it

[brasilrams]

He was wide open for a Td today and Stafford missed him. But later Stafford threw a very catchable ball to him in the end zone and he dropped it.

Yeah, I still think that was a catch bc he had it secured when his knee hit the ground.

You need to survive the ground after you go down... he didn't.

[bigklein]

His blocking was better today. I think that he’s going to flash Thursday being back in the Pacific northwest.

[Cornell29]

Yeah, I still think that was a catch bc he had it secured when his knee hit the ground.

You need to survive the ground after you go down... he didn't.

But wasn't he down when his knee hit and he had control when his knee hit the ground.

[DelMar]

You need to survive the ground after you go down... he didn't.

But wasn't he down when his knee hit and he had control when his knee hit the ground.

Exactly.

[brasilrams]

You need to survive the ground after you go down... he didn't.

But wasn't he down when his knee hit and he had control when his knee hit the ground.

The rule says you must maintain control of the ball when you go to the ground — you have to ‘survive the ground.’ It’s not enough for your knee to touch the ground and then lose the ball. When you’re catching a pass, the play is not over just because your knee hits the ground.

When you’re already a runner, that’s different — knee down, play over. But on a reception, you must complete the catch through the process of going to the ground. That means you have to secure the ball and not lose it when you hit the ground.

In this case, he lost the ball as he went to the ground. And really, He never even fully established control to begin with....and then his knee touched the ground, and the ball came out. By rule, that’s an incomplete pass.

[brasilrams]

Surviving the ground" in the NFL refers to the requirement that a receiver must maintain clear control of the ball until their body makes significant contact with the ground, making the catch complete only after demonstrating a "football move," like taking another step or tucking the ball, or if the ball touches the ground without the player losing control. While the terminology became famous due to controversial plays, the core concept is that the receiver must finish the act of catching, not just initially secure the ball, with the ball potentially touching the ground if control is maintained.

[malibu]

The Rams lead the league in fewest penalties so I’m sure any penalties by Ferguson will put him in the dog house. I don’t dislike the player I just dislike where he was picked. When you don’t have much talent at CB, taking a TE when you already had Allen/Parkinson/Higbee was redundant.


Allen or Parkinson could handle all the TE snaps and you’d never miss Ferguson. But some of the guys the Rams play in the secondary you certainly miss having a better guy there.

Really feels like we’ve wasted some of 2nd rounders:

Taylor Rapp
Van Jefferson
Cam Akers
Tutu Atwell

These 4 came in a 3 year period. Not good picks.

Last couple years:
Avila - that was good since he plays regularly
Fiske- gave up a ton but at least he plays
Ferguson….ready to dump him in the Atwell/Jefferson/Akers group

Don't agree. Still young. In this game against the lions Ferg had an easy td Stafford overthrew him he left the dB in the dust.

[Truth]

The Rams lead the league in fewest penalties so I’m sure any penalties by Ferguson will put him in the dog house. I don’t dislike the player I just dislike where he was picked. When you don’t have much talent at CB, taking a TE when you already had Allen/Parkinson/Higbee was redundant.


Allen or Parkinson could handle all the TE snaps and you’d never miss Ferguson. But some of the guys the Rams play in the secondary you certainly miss having a better guy there.

Really feels like we’ve wasted some of 2nd rounders:

Taylor Rapp
Van Jefferson
Cam Akers
Tutu Atwell

These 4 came in a 3 year period. Not good picks.

Last couple years:
Avila - that was good since he plays regularly
Fiske- gave up a ton but at least he plays
Ferguson….ready to dump him in the Atwell/Jefferson/Akers group

Don't agree. Still young. In this game against the lions Ferg had an easy td Stafford overthrew him he left the dB in the dust.

Tutu has had flashes too in his career but it doesn’t mean he wasn’t a wasted pick

[DVA_ram33]

I worked out what is going on with Ferguson - its the emergence of Colby Parkinson this season as a legit number 1 TE. And the under rated emergence of Davis Allen as his backup.

[Ramsfan08ny]

Quite an ongoing thread defending a rookie TE who looks like he has very good potential to be a factor for years to come in LA.

This is kind of like calling Corum a bust LAST YEAR .

[Cornell29]

Played 78 percent of the snaps against the Lions and one of the reasons is his blocking.

[brasilrams]

Played 78 percent of the snaps against the Lions and one of the reasons is his blocking.

Good info right there. I'm a little bit more impressed now.

[bigklein]

Several of his blocks really stood out, and Stafford definitely wants to throw to him. Things are just a little off, not unlike how they were with Adams earlier in the season. I think that this Thursday night could be special for Ferguson and the Rams. He’ll be back in the Pacific Northwest, Parkinson will get more attention, and Adams probably won’t play or will have a reduced load. It could be a Ferguson night.

[Rampager66]

He's been the best run blocking TE the Last 3 weeks, a period the Rams run game has perhaps been at it's best this year!

[49RH8R]

Several of his blocks really stood out, and Stafford definitely wants to throw to him. Things are just a little off, not unlike how they were with Adams earlier in the season. I think that this Thursday night could be special for Ferguson and the Rams. He’ll be back in the Pacific Northwest, Parkinson will get more attention, and Adams probably won’t play or will have a reduced load. It could be a Ferguson night.

That's the feeling I get too. I was hoping he'd take a step forward with Higbee out but the targets and catches aren't really there. I think we'll have to wait until next year to see bigger production from the rookies (Fergs, Mumphfield, Hunter). That being said, Ferguson is playing a lot and he could have a breakout game at any time.

[GoldenRam]

Lets face facts .. as far as NFL "it's a catch" rules is concerned .. the REFS are open to interpret any way they feel .. and they DO this on a weekly basis, to the point there really is NO consensus on what constitutes an actual catch. The rule as written mean virtually nothing.

As far as Ferguson goes .. I think he needs this year and next camp. Eventually, when he catches up to the game .. he could be a beast. With the speed he will beat most LB's and a good few safeties and he's too big for most CB's to handle. Right now, his blocking keeps him on the field and I'm fine with that. Parkinson is probably taking targets from him because suddenly this guy has hands like mittens covered in glue. Glad to see it. I like Higs .. but he's hurt way more often than these guys and having a 6-7 dude in the RZ is a nice luxury .. especially now that's he's figured out half his job is actually CATCHING the passes and he's becoming a RZ favorite of Staff from the looks of things

[ocram23]

Lets face facts .. as far as NFL "it's a catch" rules is concerned .. the REFS are open to interpret any way they feel .. and they DO this on a weekly basis, to the point there really is NO consensus on what constitutes an actual catch. The rule as written mean virtually nothing.

As far as Ferguson goes .. I think he needs this year and next camp. Eventually, when he catches up to the game .. he could be a beast. With the speed he will beat most LB's and a good few safeties and he's too big for most CB's to handle. Right now, his blocking keeps him on the field and I'm fine with that. Parkinson is probably taking targets from him because suddenly this guy has hands like mittens covered in glue. Glad to see it. I like Higs .. but he's hurt way more often than these guys and having a 6-7 dude in the RZ is a nice luxury .. especially now that's he's figured out half his job is actually CATCHING the passes and he's becoming a RZ favorite of Staff from the looks of things

I think he will be fine give him some time

[Cornell29]

Lets face facts .. as far as NFL "it's a catch" rules is concerned .. the REFS are open to interpret any way they feel .. and they DO this on a weekly basis, to the point there really is NO consensus on what constitutes an actual catch. The rule as written mean virtually nothing.

As far as Ferguson goes .. I think he needs this year and next camp. Eventually, when he catches up to the game .. he could be a beast. With the speed he will beat most LB's and a good few safeties and he's too big for most CB's to handle. Right now, his blocking keeps him on the field and I'm fine with that. Parkinson is probably taking targets from him because suddenly this guy has hands like mittens covered in glue. Glad to see it. I like Higs .. but he's hurt way more often than these guys and having a 6-7 dude in the RZ is a nice luxury .. especially now that's he's figured out half his job is actually CATCHING the passes and he's becoming a RZ favorite of Staff from the looks of things

True
Catch interpretation was put to the test with Park td vs the Lions. Still being debated.