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[ocram23]

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I thought about it today how his family has been present at games on the road this year. Was this the case previous years? A bit interesting?………….

Saw this too… second or third time I’ve seen them at an away game, Kelly and all 4 girls.

My thoughts are same as yours… very interesting as I don’t recall them traveling w him on road games in past, especially this much …

If I’m a betting man, reading the tea leaves …well….

Yup. I won’t say it, because I can’t come to terms w it.

I think we all know why Kelly does this......all about Kelly

[CierraRam]

I wanted to add to my previous post that Cleveland may not draft one early if Sanders plays decent in these last 4 games against much better competition.

it is going to be very interesting to say the least. I think Cleveland can not go into next yr with Sanders as their 1. JMO...

The Browns schedule is not easy from here on out. So the chances are higher IMO that Sanders incremental improvement from game to game comes to an end and thus they draft someone high. Sanders so far reminds me of the Doug Flutie, Tyrod Taylor career backup type that can win you a game or two.

[Rampager66]

I doubt the Vikings will be drafting a QB anytime soon.
They just went all in on JJ McCarthy to the point of moving on from a QB that had just lead them to a 14-3 season...

I'm in the Joe Burrow Camp. We can package 1st RD picks like we did to get Staff. We just went a few years in a row w/o a No. 1 didn't we?
Cincinnati is the type of organization that would take a deal like Detroit did IMO and that's what I'd like to see them do once Staff's done!

[CierraRam]

I doubt the Vikings will be drafting a QB anytime soon.
They just went all in on JJ McCarthy to the point of moving on from a QB that had just lead them to a 14-3 season...

I'm in the Joe Burrow Camp. We can package 1st RD picks like we did to get Staff. We just went a few years in a row w/o a No. 1 didn't we?
Cincinnati is the type of organization that would take a deal like Detroit did IMO and that's what I'd like to see them do once Staff's done!

Which could be this season if the Rams win it all. He's gonna get the MVP too. I would love Joe Burrow in horns.. Is Cinci really that stupid though?

[ocram23]

I doubt the Vikings will be drafting a QB anytime soon.
They just went all in on JJ McCarthy to the point of moving on from a QB that had just lead them to a 14-3 season...

I'm in the Joe Burrow Camp. We can package 1st RD picks like we did to get Staff. We just went a few years in a row w/o a No. 1 didn't we?
Cincinnati is the type of organization that would take a deal like Detroit did IMO and that's what I'd like to see them do once Staff's done!

I agree with you on McCarthy
again Rampage how on earth are you going to afford Burrow's contract???? not happening

[Rampager66]

I doubt the Vikings will be drafting a QB anytime soon.
They just went all in on JJ McCarthy to the point of moving on from a QB that had just lead them to a 14-3 season...

I'm in the Joe Burrow Camp. We can package 1st RD picks like we did to get Staff. We just went a few years in a row w/o a No. 1 didn't we?
Cincinnati is the type of organization that would take a deal like Detroit did IMO and that's what I'd like to see them do once Staff's done!

Which could be this season if the Rams win it all. He's gonna get the MVP too. I would love Joe Burrow in horns.. Is Cinci really that stupid though?

I think if the Rams do go all the way and he wins the MVP too, that he can easily be persuaded to keep playing and try and run it back. But I can see your scenerio playing out too because a 2nd ring along with all the career #'s he posted, now entering the top 5 ever in many passing categories would be more than enough to get him into the HOF.
I think Cincy would bite. There's a reason they don't contend often and have never won a SB.

[Rampager66]

I doubt the Vikings will be drafting a QB anytime soon.
They just went all in on JJ McCarthy to the point of moving on from a QB that had just lead them to a 14-3 season...

I'm in the Joe Burrow Camp. We can package 1st RD picks like we did to get Staff. We just went a few years in a row w/o a No. 1 didn't we?
Cincinnati is the type of organization that would take a deal like Detroit did IMO and that's what I'd like to see them do once Staff's done!

I agree with you on McCarthy
again Rampage how on earth are you going to afford Burrow's contract???? not happening

First you have Staffords contract coming off the Cap so the increase from Burrows salary is what 7 M... the cap will go up that much won't it?
And then you have Burrow, who's already made a ton of dough and has watched what being team friendly has done for Staff here, he may be IMO persuaded to do something similar... Less $$ for better success and contending most years.

[ocram23]

I agree with you on McCarthy
again Rampage how on earth are you going to afford Burrow's contract???? not happening

First you have Staffords contract coming off the Cap so the increase from Burrows salary is what 7 M... the cap will go up that much won't it?
And then you have Burrow, who's already made a ton of dough and has watched what being team friendly has done for Staff here, he may be IMO persuaded to do something similar... Less $$ for better success and contending most years.

Staff's cap hit next yr is $48M...would love Burrow but I just do not see it happening.....

[Rampager66]

First you have Staffords contract coming off the Cap so the increase from Burrows salary is what 7 M... the cap will go up that much won't it?
And then you have Burrow, who's already made a ton of dough and has watched what being team friendly has done for Staff here, he may be IMO persuaded to do something similar... Less $$ for better success and contending most years.

Staff's cap hit next yr is $48M...would love Burrow but I just do not see it happening.....

If Staff retires then there's no 48M$ cap hit for him.. right?

[ocram23]

Staff's cap hit next yr is $48M...would love Burrow but I just do not see it happening.....

If Staff retires then there's no 48M$ cap hit for him.. right?

hmmmm.....great question....I think it does because they still have to pay him

[Rampager66]

If Staff retires then there's no 48M$ cap hit for him.. right?

hmmmm.....great question....I think it does because they still have to pay him

If he retires? What's the return on the investment? Need to check both his and the teams Options on his contract...

[ocram23]

hmmmm.....great question....I think it does because they still have to pay him

If he retires? What's the return on the investment? Need to check both his and the teams Options on his contract...

he is still owed the money so yes it counts

[NorCal RF]

$41.8 dead cap hit in 26 if MS retires……

[ocram23]

$41.8 dead cap hit in 26 if MS retires……

which means they aren't trading for anyone good IMO

[Rampager66]

$41.8 dead cap hit in 26 if MS retires……

which means they aren't trading for anyone good IMO

I think Staff will play then and not leave the team cap struck. Year after that there's no hit then, at least not yet.
Who's to say he won't want to keep playing and sign for 2 more.. he's in great shape and in a good situation..
But I do get your point. No Burrows or anyone else for the immediate future..

[ocram23]

which means they aren't trading for anyone good IMO

I think Staff will play then and not leave the team cap struck. Year after that there's no hit then, at least not yet.
Who's to say he won't want to keep playing and sign for 2 more.. he's in great shape and in a good situation..
But I do get your point. No Burrows or anyone else for the immediate future..

barring any major injuries he will play next yr

[NorCal RF]

$41.8 dead cap hit in 26 if MS retires……

which means they aren't trading for anyone good IMO

I was wrong about they couldn’t trade Goff, contract, but yes I think we can stop with the Burrows/Lawrence talk this off season………

Stafford will come back and if he does so will Adams. And as a fan base that is what we want……..

[DVA_ram33]

I think Staff will play then and not leave the team cap struck. Year after that there's no hit then, at least not yet.
Who's to say he won't want to keep playing and sign for 2 more.. he's in great shape and in a good situation..
But I do get your point. No Burrows or anyone else for the immediate future..

barring any major injuries he will play next yr

I'm all in on Burrow as well although i think it will be 2027 for the reasons stated.. Next year we will be stronger for a SB run if Stafford stays and we let Havs, Higs etc go and have cap space for some key acquisitions (CB?)

Key to getting Burrow is that we move one of the 1st rounders to next year to give us the ammo and that Burrow requests trade.

[malibu]

I say every off-season regarding drafting a qb historically every season only 1 or 2 or none make a longterm impact yet 4-5 teams draft one in the first round unfortunately getting it wrong is a team killer. Most great qbs come in the first round sure there are exceptions like Wilson, dak etc but they are very few and far between.

Watching all the USC games no one is talking about Jayden Maiava. He is amazing projected to be late first round high second rounder. He has great escape ability, he can run and has an amazing deep ball. I'd love for the Rams to take him in the 2nd round if he lasts there he can sit and learn behind Stafford for a year or two.

[ocram23]

I say every off-season regarding drafting a qb historically every season only 1 or 2 or none make a longterm impact yet 4-5 teams draft one in the first round unfortunately getting it wrong is a team killer. Most great qbs come in the first round sure there are exceptions like Wilson, dak etc but they are very few and far between.

Watching all the USC games no one is talking about Jayden Maiava. He is amazing projected to be late first round high second rounder. He has great escape ability, he can run and has an amazing deep ball. I'd love for the Rams to take him in the 2nd round if he lasts there he can sit and learn behind Stafford for a year or two.

Maiava has another year so not sure what he is going to do. he definitely is raw

[DVA_ram33]

I don;t see the Rams going for a Rookie QB straight away.. Mc Vay is win now.

[ocram23]

I don;t see the Rams going for a Rookie QB straight away.. Mc Vay is win now.

it's a valid opinion. is McVay going to be with the Rams for the long run????????

[Rampager66]

I don;t see the Rams going for a Rookie QB straight away.. Mc Vay is win now.

it's a valid opinion. is McVay going to be with the Rams for the long run????????

We hope!

[DVA_ram33]

Burrow giving some hints

[Bulldawg]

Burrow giving some hints

Burrow playing his career at Cincy would be just as bad as Stafford being at Detroit. Although, I can think of 55 million reasons he is playing.

[ocram23]

well you can add KC to the list of teams looking for a QB in the off season. With the updated news today that Mahomes knee is more damaged then they thought they said he could be out now a full year.
No way are they going into next year with Minshew as the starter.
Looks like AZ is going to cut Murray at the end of the year. I think multiple teams will take a look at him. Money will be an issue probably
Going to be interesting in the off season for sure

[DVA_ram33]

well you can add KC to the list of teams looking for a QB in the off season. With the updated news today that Mahomes knee is more damaged then they thought they said he could be out now a full year.
No way are they going into next year with Minshew as the starter.
Looks like AZ is going to cut Murray at the end of the year. I think multiple teams will take a look at him. Money will be an issue probably
Going to be interesting in the off season for sure

KC are all in on Mahones, they will probably look for a vet stop gap while he recovers... Garapolo !?

[ocram23]

well you can add KC to the list of teams looking for a QB in the off season. With the updated news today that Mahomes knee is more damaged then they thought they said he could be out now a full year.
No way are they going into next year with Minshew as the starter.
Looks like AZ is going to cut Murray at the end of the year. I think multiple teams will take a look at him. Money will be an issue probably
Going to be interesting in the off season for sure

KC are all in on Mahones, they will probably look for a vet stop gap while he recovers... Garapolo !?

of course they are but he won't be available until at least half way thru the 2026 season if not later. Stop gap for sure just who is the question. You can add Miami to the QB mix now....Tua and Kyler Murray will be available in the off season. Going to be interesting to watch

[Rampager66]

I wonder if 9ers Mac Jones will be looking to move on and see if he can start somewhere else. He should be in the QB Mix. If he wants it..
He's probably played himself into another opportunity with the job he did filling in for Purdy and keeping the 9ers in the race.

[ocram23]

I wonder if 9ers Mac Jones will be looking to move on and see if he can start somewhere else. He should be in the QB Mix. If he wants it..
He's probably played himself into another opportunity with the job he did filling in for Purdy and keeping the 9ers in the race.

I think Mac is going to make a lot of money in the off season.

[NorCal RF]

Niners actually have Mac Jones signed through 2027. And for nothing. Less than $3m. With Purdy’s injury history the Niners could say you are staying here at least for 26……