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PFF vs Cards...

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The Good...

Top 5 offense:

WR Puka Nacua: 97.4
QB Matthew Stafford: 93.9
LT Alaric Jackson: 92.1
RB Blake Corum: 91.9
RB Kyren Williams: 83.4

Top 5 defense:

LB Nate Landman: 87.4
OLB Josaiah Stewart: 83.4
CB Josh Wallace: 80.7
OLB Desjuan Johnson: 77.8
DT Kobie Turner: 74.6

The Bad...

Bottom 5 offense:

WR Jordan Whittington: 58.7
WR Konata Mumpfield: 57.9
LG Steve Avila: 56.7
C Coleman Shelton: 56.4
WR Xavier Smith: 52.5

Bottom 5 defense:

DL Tyler Davis: 57.9
DL Braden Fiske: 52.0
DL Larrell Murchison: 52.0
CB Emmanuel Forbes Jr.: 48.0
CB Ahkello Witherspoon: 38.6


Forbes and Witherspoon had a lot of trouble in coverage during this game, though the Rams were playing conservatively and taking away deep passes late. Forbes gave up four catches on five targets for 50 yards and a touchdown, while Witherspoon allowed six catches on seven targets for 91 yards.


https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/ ... 669365007/
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Sunday's PFF rating for Puka was the highest ever PFF ranking for a wide receiver. He broke Julio Jones previous record of 96.8 from week 12 of 2017.
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McCullough and Wallace seem to do well within their roles... Why aren't they getting a shot to start? Their roles is where I think Forbes would shine btw...
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Here are the OL grades

Rams tackles are good again.

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I hope Spoon heals fast, bc he stinks right now. Forbes isn't the answer, that's the nicest way to say it. Hopefully DWill is back vs the Lions, he can't tackle and struggles vs big physical wrs but he should be at least solid vs Brown. I guess Durant should be matched vs Jameson.

I'm thinking shootout
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HellRam wrote: December 8th, 2025, 3:23 pm I'm not a PFF absolutist.

But A. Jackson is rated 9th out of 81. And he definitely has looked like a borderline pro-bowl LT.

What a find!
Dude has been an absolute stud for us this year.
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FelixTheStonerCat wrote: December 8th, 2025, 3:28 pm
HellRam wrote: December 8th, 2025, 3:23 pm I'm not a PFF absolutist.

But A. Jackson is rated 9th out of 81. And he definitely has looked like a borderline pro-bowl LT.

What a find!
Dude has been an absolute stud for us this year.
I've said this many times in the past, but I had A.J. as a third rnd pick in his draft year. How and why he went undrafted, IDK. But in those days a 4 yr starter at Iowa at T got you drafted.
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Posted this elsewhere…
I really loved seeing Desjuan Johnson active instead of Ty Hamilton. Johnson was much more effective in preseason, too, but Hamilton wasn’t Mr. Irrelevant. Keep using Johnson! He’s a force. Hamilton isn’t there yet.
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Our scoring system is better!
app.php/rams-weekly-grades
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GlendoraRam wrote: December 8th, 2025, 4:58 pm Our scoring system is better!
app.php/rams-weekly-grades
Agreed. I’m saving this link to my favorites bar and will use this from now on. Thanks G
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PFF uses a bunch of east coast guys rating plays and players. They have their biases. This system is strictly pure mathematical evaluation from Next Gen Stats + EPA/WPA.
It uses the numbers, then a comparison of the top EPA/WPA.

EPA (Expected Points Added) measures a play's impact on scoring by comparing expected points before and after, while WPA (Win Probability Added) gauges a play's effect on the final game outcome, showing how much it increased or decreased a team's chance to win; both are advanced metrics used to evaluate player and team performance beyond traditional stats, with EPA focusing on points and WPA on winning the game
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GlendoraRam wrote: December 8th, 2025, 9:11 pm PFF uses a bunch of east coast guys rating plays and players. They have their biases. This system is strictly pure mathematical evaluation from Next Gen Stats + EPA/WPA.
It uses the numbers, then a comparison of the top EPA/WPA.

EPA (Expected Points Added) measures a play's impact on scoring by comparing expected points before and after, while WPA (Win Probability Added) gauges a play's effect on the final game outcome, showing how much it increased or decreased a team's chance to win; both are advanced metrics used to evaluate player and team performance beyond traditional stats, with EPA focusing on points and WPA on winning the game
Nothing wrong with east coast guys! :cool:
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I use to be an east coast guy☝️
What I mean to say, we are on the west coast and we all have our biases.
I am SURE if I were rating players manually, my biases would creep in. So, this system works better. IMO
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I think we are a centre away from the best OL in football.
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GlendoraRam wrote: December 8th, 2025, 9:56 pm I use to be an east coast guy☝️
What I mean to say, we are on the west coast and we all have our biases.
I am SURE if I were rating players manually, my biases would creep in. So, this system works better. IMO
lol. Yeah, PFF is just another data point. Just like the other metrics that are out there. It gives us insight but it is not the final say in ranking players.
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Bulldawg wrote: December 9th, 2025, 5:39 am
GlendoraRam wrote: December 8th, 2025, 9:56 pm I use to be an east coast guy☝️
What I mean to say, we are on the west coast and we all have our biases.
I am SURE if I were rating players manually, my biases would creep in. So, this system works better. IMO
lol. Yeah, PFF is just another data point. Just like the other metrics that are out there. It gives us insight but it is not the final say in ranking players.
It’s like the draft rankings, how many sure-fire first round picks bust out after a few years? Slightly less than 50%
No system of rating is perfect. Just another tool.
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