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Re: DeSean Wants Out
I thought he knew his role. With his injury history, we can't have him play that much and Van has shown to be a quality #3.
I guess it's Tutu time!!!
I guess it's Tutu time!!!
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Re: DeSean Wants Out
Yep, just read that.
Interesting. Sort of sad to read about it - I thought DeSean was a nice threat to have, always lurking.
Oh well.
Interesting. Sort of sad to read about it - I thought DeSean was a nice threat to have, always lurking.
Oh well.
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Was always ME not WE. Complete odd man out in our selfless WR Corp. Let's hope Tutu can step up as a deep threat.
That would release more cap for a potential move too?
That would release more cap for a potential move too?
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I thought the same. I loved him always being a possible threat with saving himself for the back half of the year.
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One I’m not moving him just because he wants out. One injury to the top 3………
Two something doesn’t smell right here IMO with Young and now this. Why wouldn’t DJAX want a chance for a ring at this point in his career.
I heard earlier this week that McVay was very short and edgy on ESPN 710 this week. Was in no mood for any “lighter” conversation which I guess isn’t like him they were saying when they have him on.
Two something doesn’t smell right here IMO with Young and now this. Why wouldn’t DJAX want a chance for a ring at this point in his career.
I heard earlier this week that McVay was very short and edgy on ESPN 710 this week. Was in no mood for any “lighter” conversation which I guess isn’t like him they were saying when they have him on.
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Re: DeSean Wants Out
I think rams are gearing to make a big move and just got rid of 2 contracts that in the ram's eyes were replaceable.NorCal RF wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 11:43 am One I’m not moving him just because he wants out. One injury to the top 3………
Two something doesn’t smell right here IMO with Young and now this. Why wouldn’t DJAX want a chance for a ring at this point in his career.
I heard earlier this week that McVay was very short and edgy on ESPN 710 this week. Was in no mood for any “lighter” conversation which I guess isn’t like him they were saying when they have him on.
We drafted Tutu so DJAX's 5 million is alot for a 4th receiver that doesn't play often.
We drafted Jones so Kenny's 3 million was deemed alot (not sure I agree with this but we will see)
I believe that these moves are setting up something else.
Sean is said to be always grumpy during prep week. Big Whit mentioned it in an interview in the off-season.
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Re: DeSean Wants Out
Baltimore, Cleveland, or Miami are possible trade partners. It would be nice to get JJ back to solidify our secondary. Hopefully it's at least a salary dump. He wanted to come to LA to play with McVay. If he doesn't want to be here--I say good riddance. Let's see what Tu Tu can do.
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Jackson was pouting on the sidelines on Sunday. He’s not getting snaps or targets but he should have known what his role was when he signed with the Rams. I don’t see this being resolved. He’s done in LA. Jefferson can take some of Jackson’s role and it’s officially TuTu time. Same as if Jackson would have an injury other than he’s butt hurt. Better to lose a quitter now.
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I never was a fan. I didn’t hate the thought of having a deep threat but never was a fan of his.
Maybe send him to the Bears and a pick for Allen Robinson.
Maybe send him to the Bears and a pick for Allen Robinson.
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I am surprised that Djax hasn't been used more than he has been. Thought we'd take a deep shot every game. With that said, if he's unhappy, hope they can move him.
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Good riddance, 35 and a play away from another season-ending injury, addition by subtraction getting his $4.5 mil off the books.
He's also Exhibit A of the NFL's hypocrisy about racism and bigotry.
He's also Exhibit A of the NFL's hypocrisy about racism and bigotry.
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This is a biz with SB on the line. I would not get him out of here just because he wants that? Not even sure that's true. This wreaks of some locker room bad blood, but who knows. Young was NOT that. He loved it here and was liked and sad to go. This feels like something else. Maybe he does have and ego and coach needs locker room to be positive. Or this could be for trade that was lurking. All I know is he was VERY productive despite his 'tude. This sucks IMO. We need him because the injury bug is always out there.
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Bring JJ Koski up from the practice squad. He catches everything and has experience in kickoff and punt returns. Rams need to fill DJ’s slot with someone who can handle kickoff and punts.
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Props to Jackson for his ambition. Some veterans want to be on the field less. They cite strains and niggling injuries. Jackson wants to be on the field more often. Personally I think we're over-using our top 2 WRs because WRs can't give maximum effort on every play. Sprinters need a break between maximum efforts. I'd be giving Jackson more snaps.
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Re: DeSean Wants Out
look into the history of DJAX and this is who he is. he is not a team guy never has been. not surprised about this move at all. But I agree with you if anyone gets hurt in front of him we are in trouble.NorCal RF wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 11:43 am One I’m not moving him just because he wants out. One injury to the top 3………
Two something doesn’t smell right here IMO with Young and now this. Why wouldn’t DJAX want a chance for a ring at this point in his career.
I heard earlier this week that McVay was very short and edgy on ESPN 710 this week. Was in no mood for any “lighter” conversation which I guess isn’t like him they were saying when they have him on.
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Well, with him officially out of the Texans game we are going to be very light with offensive options. We were already thin at RB & TE. Could have done without being down a WR as well.
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Re: DeSean Wants Out
Well I’m not going to blindly back the coach
Why the F didn’t they target him more, why do we have to sit in 11 personnel all year again
We got F$&ing Stanford to go deep, Why are we playing the same offense we played 3 years ago
Is Van Jefferson so essential that we can’t get DJax more targets?
What about Higbee, why can’t he get more targets, the dude is a stud McVay keeps him average
Don’t get me wrong we are 7-1, it’s hard to argue with that but if we are going to be 75% Kupp all year it’s gonna be hard to change that when it gets shut down and it will get shut down when we play better teams
Jackson had less than 2 targets a game, I’d be pissed too
Just stupid
Why the F didn’t they target him more, why do we have to sit in 11 personnel all year again
We got F$&ing Stanford to go deep, Why are we playing the same offense we played 3 years ago
Is Van Jefferson so essential that we can’t get DJax more targets?
What about Higbee, why can’t he get more targets, the dude is a stud McVay keeps him average
Don’t get me wrong we are 7-1, it’s hard to argue with that but if we are going to be 75% Kupp all year it’s gonna be hard to change that when it gets shut down and it will get shut down when we play better teams
Jackson had less than 2 targets a game, I’d be pissed too
Just stupid
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Re: DeSean Wants Out
Harris should also come into the equation since he's more WR than TE. I don't have a problem with depth players getting game reps when the starters are ready on the sidelines. Not having them there is a bit different. Hopefully we won't need a safety net.
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Yea that interview said it all. Very interesting.DMRamFan wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 1:12 pm After reading this article below... It seems everywhere DJ goes, he gets released. Sure its money saving for each team to cut him, but what does it say that NO team wants to keep him?
Hmmm. I guess im glad he is going if he wasnt mixing well w the team. Just really odd to me if HE wanted out in the sense of chasing a ring... sounds like he is chasing to be more in the spot light and maybe extra cash. Plus we prob traded him just in time before he goes out on IR... again.
https://nfltraderumors.co/rams-wr-desea ... eek-trade/
Also, just caught McVay's press conference he wrapped up about an hour ago. Boy, he is NOT happy with DJ. Something happened. Who knows. But he sounds like he's DONE w him. We all know Sean, and we all know when he's annoyed.
*He also said that DJ will NOT suit up nor play against the Texans, guessing he wont even travel w the team from the sound of this presser.
I have one lingering question to all this... What happens if they cant find a trade partner? Sounds like Sean would just cut him... after this interview.
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Why the hell cater to to a 34 year old 4th receiver………therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 1:39 pm Well I’m not going to blindly back the coach
Why the F didn’t they target him more, why do we have to sit in 12 personnel all year again
We got F$&ing Stanford to go deep, Why are we playing the same offense we played 3 years ago
Is Van Jefferson so essential that we can’t get DJax more targets?
What about Higbee, why can’t ge get more targets
Don’t get me wrong we are 7-1, it’s hard to argue with that but if we are are 75% Kupp all year it’s gonna be hard to change that when it gets shut down
Jackson had less than 2 targets a game, I’d be pissed too
Just stupid
Yes Jefferson is that essential. The kid can flat out play and is showing it……….
We complain about Kupp’s targets but do we pay attention what is going on with other teams? GB who gets most of the targets…….Adams…… AZ……..Hopkins……. KC……… Hill n Kelce………… Buffalo………. Diggs…… Samuel, Moore…………. Elite receivers get the ball period and they certainly do before 34 year old “me” receivers……..
Stupid…………..
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Come on NorCal, reading comp man, I wasn’t making the statement that van Jefferson is not important I was making the statement that we could afford to give DeSean Jackson a couple of his targets, if he had 4 less this season would we be worse off?NorCal RF wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 1:51 pmWhy the hell cater to to a 34 year old 4th receiver………therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 1:39 pm Well I’m not going to blindly back the coach
Why the F didn’t they target him more, why do we have to sit in 12 personnel all year again
We got F$&ing Stanford to go deep, Why are we playing the same offense we played 3 years ago
Is Van Jefferson so essential that we can’t get DJax more targets?
What about Higbee, why can’t ge get more targets
Don’t get me wrong we are 7-1, it’s hard to argue with that but if we are are 75% Kupp all year it’s gonna be hard to change that when it gets shut down
Jackson had less than 2 targets a game, I’d be pissed too
Just stupid
Yes Jefferson is that essential. The kid can flat out play and is showing it……….
We complain about Kupp’s targets but do we pay attention what is going on with other teams? GB who gets most of the targets…….Adams…… AZ……..Hopkins……. KC……… Hill n Kelce………… Buffalo………. Diggs…… Samuel, Moore…………. Elite receivers get the ball period and they certainly do before 34 year old “me” receivers……..
Stupid…………..
McVay got the rock in Tavon Austin’s hands as a running back or on the jet sweep you mean to tell me we couldn’t have taken away a possession from Sony Michel and given it to fu$&@ing DeSean Jackson, We needed TuTu Atwell to return punts when we had DeSean Jackson?
Good players have pride, woods got cranky And McVay was on the podium talking about how he needed to get him the ball and the next game he did
My feeling is if he got DeSean one and a half more touches a game we wouldn’t be dealing with this right now and that would not have been so hard and probably would have helped the team
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We're not using a lot of 12 personnel with Mundt out. Blanton got a few snaps last week. I'm more concerned with Higbee trying to play every snap, (336 of 367 on offense + 32 on STs). He can't be 100% healthy and effective at this point.therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 1:39 pm...Is Van Jefferson so essential that we can’t get DJax more targets?
What about Higbee, why can’t he get more targets, the dude is a stud McVay keeps him average
Don’t get me wrong we are 7-1, it’s hard to argue with that but if we are going to be 75% Kupp all year it’s gonna be hard to change that when it gets shut down and it will get shut down when we play better teams
Jackson had less than 2 targets a game, I’d be pissed too...
Woods has played 344 of 367 offensive snaps. Kupp has played 340. Jackson has played 96.
* Snap counts as per Footballoutsiders.com which may, or may not, be accurate. (They don't have Blanton listed at TE but he appears on NFL.com's Gamebook for Week 7).
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Again sorry could not disagree more……..therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 2:09 pmCome on NorCal, reading comp man, I wasn’t making the statement that van Jefferson is not important I was making the statement that we could afford to give DeSean Jackson a couple of his targets, if he had 4 less this season would we be worse off?NorCal RF wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 1:51 pm Why the hell cater to to a 34 year old 4th receiver………
Yes Jefferson is that essential. The kid can flat out play and is showing it……….
We complain about Kupp’s targets but do we pay attention what is going on with other teams? GB who gets most of the targets…….Adams…… AZ……..Hopkins……. KC……… Hill n Kelce………… Buffalo………. Diggs…… Samuel, Moore…………. Elite receivers get the ball period and they certainly do before 34 year old “me” receivers……..
Stupid…………..
McVay got the rock in Tavon Austin’s hands as a running back or on the jet sweep you mean to tell me we couldn’t have taken away a possession from Sony Michel and given it to fu$&@ing DeSean Jackson, We needed TuTu Atwell to return punts when we had DeSean Jackson?
Good players have pride, woods got cranky And McVay was on the podium talking about how he needed to get him the ball and the next game he did
My feeling is if he got DeSean one and a half more touches a game we wouldn’t be dealing with this right now and that would not have been so hard and probably would have helped the team
Absolutely no you don’t give VJ less snaps in order to get Jackson on the field more………..
Every team in this league for 2 years now has game planned for that jet sweep from this team. How long ago was Austin a Ram? There is a reason why McVay doesn’t run it much anymore………
Do you really think he was going to be happy returning punts….…..
McVay’s job is not to keep a 4th receiver happy at this level…………
The risk here is if one of the top 3 goes down. But again his job was to stay ready as veteran receiver not b$&@% because he wasn’t playing much on a 6-1 team……..
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Yeah that was a typo, I fixed it as soon as I saw it, we Are barely using 12 at all, once again we lead the league and 11, Which is fine until it’s notflv wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 2:14 pmWe're not using a lot of 12 personnel with Mundt out. Blanton got a few snaps last week. I'm more concerned with Higbee trying to play every snap, (336 of 367 on offense + 32 on STs). He can't be 100% healthy and effective at this point.therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 1:39 pm...Is Van Jefferson so essential that we can’t get DJax more targets?
What about Higbee, why can’t he get more targets, the dude is a stud McVay keeps him average
Don’t get me wrong we are 7-1, it’s hard to argue with that but if we are going to be 75% Kupp all year it’s gonna be hard to change that when it gets shut down and it will get shut down when we play better teams
Jackson had less than 2 targets a game, I’d be pissed too...
Woods has played 344 of 367 offensive snaps. Kupp has played 340. Jackson has played 96.
* Snap counts as per Footballoutsiders.com which may, or may not, be accurate. (They don't have Blanton listed at TE but he appears on NFL.com's Gamebook for Week 7).
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More COACHSPEAK. McVay basically says in the presser "I should have done a better job calling plays to get him the ball and I'm the only one to blame".
DUDE. Either you want to get him the ball and you call plays for it or you don't think his playcalls are as effective and you don't call them. YOU'RE making the calls. He's speaking out of both sides of his mouth. What's new.
DUDE. Either you want to get him the ball and you call plays for it or you don't think his playcalls are as effective and you don't call them. YOU'RE making the calls. He's speaking out of both sides of his mouth. What's new.
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Well then we both disagree tremendously we went out and bet the farm on Stafford, the main reason was Goffs inability to get the ball down field. Kupp and Woods are not great deep threats, we went out and got perhaps the best one. We may only need him 3 games all year but scaring the $hit out of DCs who might otherwise play that 6-1 defense that the Bears, Pats and Dolphins used might make all the difference.NorCal RF wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 2:21 pmAgain sorry could not disagree more……..therealheadslap75 wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 2:09 pm Come on NorCal, reading comp man, I wasn’t making the statement that van Jefferson is not important I was making the statement that we could afford to give DeSean Jackson a couple of his targets, if he had 4 less this season would we be worse off?
McVay got the rock in Tavon Austin’s hands as a running back or on the jet sweep you mean to tell me we couldn’t have taken away a possession from Sony Michel and given it to fu$&@ing DeSean Jackson, We needed TuTu Atwell to return punts when we had DeSean Jackson?
Good players have pride, woods got cranky And McVay was on the podium talking about how he needed to get him the ball and the next game he did
My feeling is if he got DeSean one and a half more touches a game we wouldn’t be dealing with this right now and that would not have been so hard and probably would have helped the team
Absolutely no you don’t give VJ less snaps in order to get Jackson on the field more………..
Every team in this league for 2 years now has game planned for that jet sweep from this team. How long ago was Austin a Ram? There is a reason why McVay doesn’t run it much anymore………
Do you really think he was going to be happy returning punts….…..
McVay’s job is not to keep a 4th receiver happy at this level…………
The risk here is if one of the top 3 goes down. But again his job was to stay ready as veteran receiver not b$&@% because he wasn’t playing much on a 6-1 team……..
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amazing that in this day and age of hype communications we can't hear the questions asked in a presser...
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Yeah its coach speakidahoramfan wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 2:36 pm More COACHSPEAK. McVay basically says in the presser "I should have done a better job calling plays to get him the ball and I'm the only one to blame".
DUDE. Either you want to get him the ball and you call plays for it or you don't think his playcalls are as effective and you don't call them. YOU'RE making the calls. He's speaking out of both sides of his mouth. What's new.
He did the same with TG. Had some thinking that TG still had something left in the tank but he wasn't running him enough. In actuality he knew TG career was pretty much over and didn't want to mess up any trade value he might have had. Despite Mcvay acting job we eventually we found out that his trade value was 0 and his legs are shot.
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