Wolfie in trouble?

[toast49]

I hope they cut Wolford. He's barely serviceable as a backup. Hopefully someone else steps up.

[Rams since '66]

I hope they cut Wolford. He's barely serviceable as a backup. Hopefully someone else steps up.

[toast49]

I hope they cut Wolford. He's barely serviceable as a backup. Hopefully someone else steps up.

WARNING...OH BOY.... the gloves have come off.

BE READY FOR SOME SPARKS W THIS... LOL. Good one Toast.

Hope you're ready for the BLAST.

For all kids and ladies... maybe click out of this post now. Its about to get real dirty...

I think we do have some Wolford Mom's on here. Strange days indeed. I think he may be Mike's and Safety's love child.

[Rams since '66]

I hope they cut Wolford ???? Anybody else think that is a little harsh ??? That would spoil a lot of dreams for a great many fans this season. If the Rams did cut Wolford , after he willingly gave up his number 9 , talk about ungrateful. I hope they cut Wolford ??? What so a team like the SeaHags or 49ers snatch him right up. ??? What if Wolford winds up knocking the Rams out of the playoffs ??? Somebody's name around here would be toast. Cut Wolford ???

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[toast49]

Seriously I hope one of the other QB's steps up because the dropoff from Stafford to Wolford is huge.

[toast49]

Seriously I hope one of the other QB's steps up because the dropoff from Stafford to Wolford is huge.

The dropoff from Stafford to Goff was HUGER.

Not sure how that's relevant to Stafford/Wolford. You have a bad case of GDS.

[Yorkshire Ram]

Not sure about the cut Wolford stuff at this point. If Perkins lights up camp and preseason then maybe he's in trouble?

However, the guy showed he was, at the very least, a serviceable spot starter from what we saw last year? I certainly wouldn't worry if he had to step in for a couple of games if Stafford was hurt.

Seems like some people want to be anti-Wolford just to annoy others? I don't get it, the guy showed flashes, he's apparently a hard worker and his team mates love him. Don't get the hate.

[FelixTheStonerCat]

I hope they cut Wolford ???? Anybody else think that is a little harsh ??? That would spoil a lot of dreams for a great many fans this season. If the Rams did cut Wolford , after he willingly gave up his number 9 , talk about ungrateful. I hope they cut Wolford ??? What so a team like the SeaHags or 49ers snatch him right up. ??? What if Wolford winds up knocking the Rams out of the playoffs ??? Somebody's name around here would be toast. Cut Wolford ???

You're being so damn ridiculously over the top with the Wolford love.

[toast49]

Not sure about the cut Wolford stuff at this point. If Perkins lights up camp and preseason then maybe he's in trouble?

However, the guy showed he was, at the very least, a serviceable spot starter from what we saw last year? I certainly wouldn't worry if he had to step in for a couple of games if Stafford was hurt.

Seems like some people want to be anti-Wolford just to annoy others? I don't get it, the guy showed flashes, he's apparently a hard worker and his team mates love him. Don't get the hate.

There's no hate on Wolford to suggest the Rams need a better quality backup QB. If the team is in win now mode then they have to consider the recent litany of injuries Stafford has had. Hopefully McVay can identify a better backup QB than Wolford that's currently on the roster or maybe a free agent or cap cut.

[Commish]

Not sure how that's relevant to Stafford/Wolford. You have a bad case of GDS.

LOL!! That's a common mindset around here, I'd venture.

However, John Wolford knows our team's offensive system and its players.

Many fans like him because he looks 'flashy' on the field, rather like Austin Davis back in 2014--and their feelings do matter to some degree.

He was the QB during a critical season-finale victory which put the Rams into the postseason last year. (This argument works best if you don't analyze the scoring in that game.)

He was technically the *starting* QB in the Good Guys' playoff win over the Seahawks. (Again, this argument also works best if there isn't any further analysis of that victory.)

Sean McVay apparently believed that Wolford at full health would be a better performer at QB than Jared Goff with a broken thumb on his throwing hand. (However, our team's decision-makers seemingly believed that Goff with a still-recovering broken thumb should be the starter at QB over Wolford with a strained chest.)

It's difficult to find a truly starting-caliber QB to be a backup for very long, if he's that competent he'll almost certainly end up as a starter on some team.

Wolford might play adequately filling in for 2-3 games this year, *if* the Rams rushing attack and "D" have superior performances during those contests--that's about all which the great majority of NFL backup QBs can be counted on for, I'm figuring... :? :P

ram pathos...

--The Commish

[Yorkshire Ram]

Not sure about the cut Wolford stuff at this point. If Perkins lights up camp and preseason then maybe he's in trouble?

However, the guy showed he was, at the very least, a serviceable spot starter from what we saw last year? I certainly wouldn't worry if he had to step in for a couple of games if Stafford was hurt.

Seems like some people want to be anti-Wolford just to annoy others? I don't get it, the guy showed flashes, he's apparently a hard worker and his team mates love him. Don't get the hate.

There's no hate on Wolford to suggest the Rams need a better quality backup QB. If the team is in win now mode then they have to consider the recent litany of injuries Stafford has had. Hopefully McVay can identify a better backup QB than Wolford that's currently on the roster or maybe a free agent or cap cut.

Maybe McVay doesn't feel like he needs a better backup?

Wolford is the only QB in NFL history to pass for over 250 yards and run for 50+ on debut. The early exit in the next game was on Wolford and McVay.

If you want him replaced due to durability concerns then I can understand, but based on ability he certainly offered something and doesn't deserve the 'hope they cut' stuff, just like he doesn't deserve to be anointed as the next big thing in my opinion.

[Bulldawg]

I hope they cut Wolford. He's barely serviceable as a backup. Hopefully someone else steps up.

Toast, I actually understand/agree with your comment. I won’t go as far as I hope they cut him but I hope someone steps up and beats him out. Maybe they can keep 3 QBs. It is always good to improve even with the backup positions. I am in the minority here but I think we can get a better backup. Hopefully we won’t get a single snap once the season has started.

The one thing that might keep him on the team is that he knows the offense.

[toast49]

Maybe McVay doesn't feel like he needs a better backup?

Wolford is the only QB in NFL history to pass for over 250 yards and run for 50+ on debut. The early exit in the next game was on Wolford and McVay.

If you want him replaced due to durability concerns then I can understand, but based on ability he certainly offered something and doesn't deserve the 'hope they cut' stuff, just like he doesn't deserve to be anointed as the next big thing in my opinion.

Of course he doesn't deserve to be cut. Toast is a 17 year old Female who has pictures of dreamy Jared on his bedroom wall. He's still butthurt at the bad guys who traded his dreamboat. This condition manifests into Wolford hate, the Quarterback responsible for getting Jared fired. A woman scorned....

Wolford had nothing to do with McVay trading Goff. Your GDS is showing little one.

[toast49]

Wolford had nothing to do with McVay trading Goff. Your GDS is showing little one.

Oh sure it does. Not saying Mac would want to go into 2021 with Wolf as his starter ( though if it was Wolf or Goff possibly) but when he saw better results with a "backup" Quarterback than he was getting from his 1st overall pick Starter that's when he KNEW it was time to move on from JG.

Dude lower your crack pipe for a minute. Goff carved up the Cards again and again. Wolford put up 9 points. Better results?

[GlendoraRam]

Perkins has a great deal of work to do. None of knows who the backup will be or even if the backup is on the roster right now. No reason at to think Wofford is in “trouble”. I am not sold on Worfford or Perkins just yet. Both have glaring weaknesses.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/bryce-per ... 85c4dd47b3

[toast49]

Wolford's QB rating in that impressive season ending game was 64.7 which is horrible.

[toast49]

Wolford's QB rating in the Seattle game till he got knocked out was a stunning 63.9.

[Rampager66]

Wolford had nothing to do with McVay trading Goff. Your GDS is showing little one.

Oh sure it does. Not saying Mac would want to go into 2021 with Wolf as his starter ( though if it was Wolf or Goff possibly) but when he saw better results with a "backup" Quarterback than he was getting from his 1st overall pick Starter that's when he KNEW it was time to move on from JG.

How about you show us in detail the better results we got from Wolford vs Goff?

vs the Cards in week 17 he lead us to 3 FG drives all day ... at Home..... the Defense had a TD and a safety, scored just as much as the offense and we won 18-7... an outcome still in doubt halfway thru the 4th quarter.... Wolford threw a pick on the 1st possession that lead to the Cards early 7-0 lead. The D stoned them the rest of the game and is the reason we won....imo

3 weeks earlier, against the same team AT Arizona, the Rams were also down 7-0 in the 1st quarter but rallied in the 2nd Q for 2 TD's and never trailed again.. Goff was 27-37 for 351 yards and a TD plus had a 1 yard TD run. The Offense racked up 483 yards, 30 1st downs and 39 minutes in TOP. with ZERO TO's. Defense scored 7 points and the Rams won 38-28 after the Cards Garbage time TD with 2 minutes left in a comfortable road win.

And the playoff game was scoreless when Wolford went down although the Rams wer on the Hags 18 and ended up getting a FG. He was 3-6 for 29 yards, was sacked once and ran 1 time for 2 yards, on the play he got hurt...

We went on to outscore them the rest of the game 27-20 and win another playoff game with Goff in there .... and again ... no TO's...

Fact is you have no case for this other then you hated Goff period.

[GlendoraRam]

As for Wofford, no doubt he came in a played with passion, something Goff seem to lack. But, passion can carry you only so far. Arm strength, size, durability, and what goes on between the ears is what separates the backups from the staters.

[Rampager66]

How about you show us in detail the better results we got from Wolford vs Goff?

vs the Cards in week 17 he lead us to 3 FG drives all day ... at Home..... the Defense had a TD and a safety, scored just as much as the offense and we won 18-7... an outcome still in doubt halfway thru the 4th quarter.... Wolford threw a pick on the 1st possession that lead to the Cards early 7-0 lead. The D stoned them the rest of the game and is the reason we won....imo

3 weeks earlier, against the same team AT Arizona, the Rams were also down 7-0 in the 1st quarter but rallied in the 2nd Q for 2 TD's and never trailed again.. Goff was 27-37 for 351 yards and a TD plus had a 1 yard TD run. The Offense racked up 483 yards, 30 1st downs and 39 minutes in TOP. with ZERO TO's. Defense scored 7 points and the Rams won 38-28 after the Cards Garbage time TD with 2 minutes left in a comfortable road win.

And the playoff game was scoreless when Wolford went down although the Rams wer on the Hags 18 and ended up getting a FG. He was 3-6 for 29 yards, was sacked once and ran 1 time for 2 yards, on the play he got hurt...

We went on to outscore them the rest of the game 27-20 and win another playoff game with Goff in there .... and again ... no TO's...

Fact is you have no case for this other then you hated Goff period.

OK. So to YOU McVay is an Idiot I guess. You dont DESERVE McVay.

You don't get to put words in my mouth, I never mentioned Mcvay, you broought him into it. I just made a case that you are flat out wrong about Wolford's value to the team and instead of rebutting it you turn into what you accused toast of being.... Too funny! Why not just admit you were wrong and move on? Goff's gone, you got what you wanted..

[Rampager66]

Dude lower your crack pipe for a minute. Goff carved up the Cards again and again. Wolford put up 9 points. Better results?

Dude, the Cards mean NOTHING to this argument . The previous TWO GAMES to the Wolford Cardinal game, Jared Goff threw TWO OF THE WORST Interceptions in NFL History, en route to BLOWING not only the Division but the #1 seed and a good shot at the Super Bowl. FUCK the previous Card games. Goff was playing like shit and Wolf came in and righted the ship.

How did he do that exactly??? and be precise. Righting the ship is throwing a pick on your very 1st pass????

In 69:20 of playing time. or almost 5 quarters, Wolford lead the offense to 4 FGs and his 1 pick lead to 7 against. He never righted fuck all.

It will be interesting to see you your act if this blows up in our faces. Not even 1 down has been played and you have annointed a QB with no playoff wins in 13 seasons as a saviour. The smart ones do that after the fact. I hope you're right for the teams sake. This will not look good for anyone, Coach, GM or Stafford if they don't live up to the hype.

[GlendoraRam]

Let’s keep it civil

[Rampager66]

You don't get to put words in my mouth, I never mentioned Mcvay, you broought him into it. I just made a case that you are flat out wrong about Wolford's value to the team and instead of rebutting it you turn into what you accused toast of being.... Too funny! Why not just admit you were wrong and move on? Goff's gone, you got what you wanted..

Wolford was better in the Arizona game than Goff was in the previous 2, against NYJ and Seattle, in which he threw 2 of the lamest Interceptions in League History. These losses in 2 eminently important and winnable games cost our Rams not only the Division but a chance at the #1 seed (hence,Super Bowl ). Wolford came on and played very good in a game the Rams had to Win to make the Playoffs. At this point McVay was poised to go with Wolford through the entirety of the Playoffs no matter how short the stay (thanks to Goff). Now, what was I WRONG about again??? Oh yeah, Goff played great in PREVIOUS Arizona games, LMAO . As if that's supposed to MEAN something! LOLOLOLOL

Yes you are wrong, you said Wolford righted the ship. I showed you that he did not and asked you for details and you respond with 2 games Wolford had no involvement in.
We used the Cards games because they each started once and played the full game against them. And both games meant something to both teams.... Goffs was on the road, Wolford at Home so advantage #9 there.... How is that not a good comparison? You wouldn't shut up about it if the details were reversed and it would suddenly matter then I'll bet...
As for your drama take on the 2 picks you claim are the worst in league history... according to who??? Show me the person that thinks that... besides someone who acts like he has a personal vendetta and is deflecting because they can't make a legitimate argument for Wolford after making a false claim about him...
To hear you tell it, Goff is the only Ram that made costly plays last year and that's flat out BS. One play did not cost us those games or any game. Opportunities are squandered all over the field every Sunday by both teams and the good teams find a way to win. You chose to isolate the ones allegedly made by those you dislike. And I say allegedly because you have no idea if everyone in on those plays did their jobs, you just pretend you do. for example... you don't know for a fact that the receivers routes were precise, blocking and execution was excellent by all 11 members on the field at the time. You blame the QB because you dislike him....

[Rampager66]

How did he do that exactly??? and be precise. Righting the ship is throwing a pick on your very 1st pass????

In 69:20 of playing time. or almost 5 quarters, Wolford lead the offense to 4 FGs and his 1 pick lead to 7 against. He never righted fuck all.

It will be interesting to see you your act if this blows up in our faces. Not even 1 down has been played and you have annointed a QB with no playoff wins in 13 seasons as a saviour. The smart ones do that after the fact. I hope you're right for the teams sake. This will not look good for anyone, Coach, GM or Stafford if they don't live up to the hype.

Savior??? No.

Far better alternative to Goff??? Yes

Our only chance at Winning the Super Bowl in the Donald/Ramsey era as opposed to sticking with Goff??? Yes.

See the difference?

No I don't see the difference because I'm not ready to annoint Stafford as our only chance.... sight unseen, in the Rams scheme.
Goff's 4 playoffs wins kinda trump Staffords 0-3 career playoff record.
I do know we got to the SB and were still in the game halfway thru the 4th Q down 6-3, with JG16 and the playoffs 3 of 4 years after 12 years of hell....

[Rams since '66]

Ram's 2021 motto for their SB run

[Commish]

Wolford proved to us that he’s a solid dependable back up. Shoot, he did well enough to make McVay and Snead really struggle in their heads who should start… Goff or Wolford?. So either Goff was that bad, or Wolford proved he could win.

We saw the results. If it was me, Wolford won the job and should have played GB game. But, we’ll never know… oh and our defense crapped the bed anyways… so who knows.

If the rest of his teammates had performed as effectively as Jared Goff did, even while still recovering from a broken thumb on his throwing hand, in the divisional-round playoff matchup vs. the Packers, then the Good Guys might well have pulled off the upset.

John Wolford "proved he could win" in a game during which our team's "D" scored nine points while surrendering seven. I'm figuring that the vast majority of pro QBs would win handily under such circumstances. Certainly he looked 'flashy' at times during that contest, still there are no points awarded for 'flashiness' in the NFL.

If you're arguing that Wolford at full health would be a more effective passer than Goff with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, I'll agree with that.

However, I'd take Goff, even still recovering from that broken thumb, over Wolford with a banged-up sternum--as would the Rams... ;) 8-) :P

ram pathos...

--The Commish

[Rampager66]

If Perkins can surpass Wolford that is WONDERFUL news for the Rams and all of us. Heck, if he can surpass Stafford that would be great. What if Trent Green never got hurt? If Warner had surpassed him organically based on Merit that would have been great news anyway. Hope Perkins can turn into something special OF COURSE. Just like certain "Ram fans" should be rooting for Wolford to do the same.

There you go reading things into it again. No one is saying they aren't rooting for Wolford. We're just not so sure he is the answer at back-up.... that is all...

[FelixTheStonerCat]

Man, what's the obsession with Wolford all of a sudden?

[Yorkshire Ram]

Man, what's the obsession with Wolford all of a sudden?

Well as it stands he's one hit from being our starter, so it's reasonable to discuss his merits or shortcomings.

Some see something in him, others don't. It's all good. If he doesn't perform in camp he'll lose his gig.

[Ramsfan08ny]

Not sure about the cut Wolford stuff at this point. If Perkins lights up camp and preseason then maybe he's in trouble?

However, the guy showed he was, at the very least, a serviceable spot starter from what we saw last year? I certainly wouldn't worry if he had to step in for a couple of games if Stafford was hurt.

Seems like some people want to be anti-Wolford just to annoy others? I don't get it, the guy showed flashes, he's apparently a hard worker and his team mates love him. Don't get the hate.

I agree with that. As for me, I was perfectly confident in Wolf as a back up and spot starter. He's a Ram, have his all when called on, and didn't hurt the team. What's NOT to like with him? Nobody ever suggested he was Warner replacing Green.