Rams Sign WR DeSean Jackson

[ocram23]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Good point...while we wait for the draft it is still fun to talk about the free agency and speculate what's gonna happen.

That said....if a poster is gonna insist a change is gonna happen you still should man up and say you were wrong...even if there is some circumstances you weren't aware of because guess what?, there are plenty of circumstances we aren't aware of.

I like when a guy makes a call and stands by it if he's right or wrong...I like the conviction Mike showed when he predicted the DW changes....don't agree with the backtracking now....especially after the "I fucking called it" post.

Just my thoughts and I still enjoy reading both of you guys...and....you and I are not the forum police.

Good Post sanny. Understand your point on "backtracking" but dont you think there's a SLIGHT extenuating circumstance why I did? I mean, just a slight one....anything in the news lately about lawsuits???

this may increase his chances of getting traded now. his stock has gone down immensely. there are still a couple of teams out there that are still interested.

[NN1Badboy]

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, I don’t like DJax. He’s a thug and a piece of garbage.

With that being said, if McVay can keep him straight he will give us the added dimension as a deep threat with better than average hands.

But with all his injuries and him being back in LA with all his homeboys, don’t be surprised if he ends up in some kind of trouble. Don’t just take my word for it.....


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And before you say it, of course he’s not going to admit it. That could (and has) hurt his career.

[ocram23]

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, I don’t like DJax. He’s a thug and a piece of garbage.

With that being said, if McVay can keep him straight he will give us the added dimension as a deep threat with better than average hands.

But with all his injuries and him being back in LA with all his homeboys, don’t be surprised if he ends up in some kind of trouble. Don’t just take my word for it.....


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/repo ... g-members/

And before you say it, of course he’s not going to admit it. That could (and has) hurt his career.

not a fan of him either. was a huge talent coming into the NFL.

[D-GenerationX]

That "gang ties" story was 100% bullshit and complete disgrace.

It was a creation of Chip Kelly and the front office here to given themselves cover to move on from DJax after had had a stellar year. He was great in Chip's system. Chip just hated him.

Hated McCoy too. Another guy that thrived in his system.

Chip was kind of a dummy.

[Rammer]

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, I don’t like DJax. He’s a thug and a piece of garbage.

With that being said, if McVay can keep him straight he will give us the added dimension as a deep threat with better than average hands.

But with all his injuries and him being back in LA with all his homeboys, don’t be surprised if he ends up in some kind of trouble. Don’t just take my word for it.....


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/repo ... g-members/

And before you say it, of course he’s not going to admit it. That could (and has) hurt his career.

not a fan of him either. was a huge talent coming into the NFL.

I've seen a lot of him here in the philly area. He does put off that negative gang affiliation vibe but he's actually a good guy. Although, I do agree that being back in LA is a potential concern. My bigger concern is that he just is too old now. He has always been a one dimensional big play maker and I just don't know many big plays he has left in him. His last couple years was just a tease for philly. Glimpses of his old self.

[ocram23]

not a fan of him either. was a huge talent coming into the NFL.

I've seen a lot of him here in the philly area. He does put off that negative gang affiliation vibe but he's actually a good guy. Although, I do agree that being back in LA is a potential concern. My bigger concern is that he just is too old now. He has always been a one dimensional big play maker and I just don't know many big plays he has left in him. His last couple years was just a tease for philly. Glimpses of his old self.

yeah he only played in 8 games in 2 years in philly. not expecting much from him in LA

[D-GenerationX]

He's a bonus pick up. A gravy guy.

If he defies the odds and stay healthy, he gives you a couple chances at deep shots each week he's in there.

If, as expected, he can't stay healthy and contributes little to nothing...so what?

The difference between the Rams and the Eagles is that Eagles NEEDED him to play, and play well. The Rams really don't.

[ocram23]

He's a bonus pick up. A gravy guy.

If he defies the odds and stay healthy, he gives you a couple chances at deep shots each week he's in there.

If, as expected, he can't stay healthy and contributes little to nothing...so what?

The difference between the Rams and the Eagles is that Eagles NEEDED him to play, and play well. The Rams really don't.

all I am saying is I am not excited about the signing. it's a non factor

[D-GenerationX]

Hahahahaha

[ocram23]

all I am saying is I am not excited about the signing. it's a non factor

"Its a non factor".

I like that Spicoli, I'm gonna leave that quote here for ALL my classes to see, while Stafford is hitting DeSean for 50-yard bombs for Touchdowns and opening up underneath for Woods, Kupp, Higbee and others, giving you FULL CREDIT of course Mr. Spicoli...

you are funny. the guy is 34 yrs old. he played in 8 games in 2 years and you think we just signed the 2nd coming of Calvin Johnson. Give me a break. Like I said non factor

[ocram23]

you are funny. the guy is 34 yrs old. he played in 8 games in 2 years and you think we just signed the 2nd coming of Calvin Johnson. Give me a break. Like I said non factor

No, I don't think we signed Calvin Johnson, I think we signed late career Steve Smith, and I'm fine with that. You realize DeSesn is still a threat, to the point where we had JALEN RAMSEY cover him when we played Philly last year. Non factor is such a gross understatement and you will be (gladly) eating your words I'm sure when Jacksom plays and plays WELL.

what's a factor for you then? he had 23 rec's in 2 years with Philly. give me your prediction

[ocram23]

you are funny. the guy is 34 yrs old. he played in 8 games in 2 years and you think we just signed the 2nd coming of Calvin Johnson. Give me a break. Like I said non factor

No, I don't think we signed Calvin Johnson, I think we signed late career Steve Smith, and I'm fine with that. You realize DeSesn is still a threat, to the point where we had JALEN RAMSEY cover him when we played Philly last year. Non factor is such a gross understatement and you will be (gladly) eating your words I'm sure when Jacksom plays and plays WELL.

1 more question: who do you think JR should have covered??? Have you seen their WR crew?? Pathetic

[ocram23]

what's a factor for you then? he had 23 rec's in 2 years with Philly. give me your prediction

Games played. He will play more games than last 2 seasons COMBINED.
Quarterback. He will have the BEST QB he's ever played with.
Deep throws. Cant say how many catches but if his mere presence opens up the mid and lower flat he's doing a GREAT job.

Question: why in the world would Sean McVay sign a "non factor?"

answer the question. McVay signed him because they need speed and maybe he can help. considering we still don't know what they signed him for the jury is still out on that fact. so again what is a factor??? So now you say he is a factor if they use him as a decoy??? I will gladly eat my words because if I do that means he produced which is a positive. no excuses from you if he doesn't produce

[ocram23]

1 more question: who do you think JR should have covered??? Have you seen their WR crew?? Pathetic

Fair point, but if DeSean is an old man with a cane on the field JR would have taken somebody else.

he still has speed not saying he doesn't just saying I don't think he will be a factor on this team. time will tell

[Ramsfan08ny]

not a fan of him either. was a huge talent coming into the NFL.

I've seen a lot of him here in the philly area. He does put off that negative gang affiliation vibe but he's actually a good guy. Although, I do agree that being back in LA is a potential concern. My bigger concern is that he just is too old now. He has always been a one dimensional big play maker and I just don't know many big plays he has left in him. His last couple years was just a tease for philly. Glimpses of his old self.

Although he only had 14 catches in five games last year, he did avg 18 YPC on those receptions. If he's in the field, he still needs to be accounted for.

[harkin]

No, I don't think we signed Calvin Johnson, I think we signed late career Steve Smith, and I'm fine with that.

Steve Smith was a marvel of nature.

Desean Jackson
Years 11-13 (his last three seasons):

774 yds, 4 TDs
159, 2
236, 1

Steve Smith
Years 11-13 (he played 16 seasons):

1,394 yds, 4 TDs
1,174, 4
745, 6

In Smith’s 14th season he went:

1,065 yds, 6 TDs

If DJax all of a sudden turns into late career Steve Smith it will be just dandy but it will also be against the way Jackson is trending.

[ocram23]

answer the question. McVay signed him because they need speed and maybe he can help. considering we still don't know what they signed him for the jury is still out on that fact. so again what is a factor??? So now you say he is a factor if they use him as a decoy??? I will gladly eat my words because if I do that means he produced which is a positive. no excuses from you if he doesn't produce

Who said decoy?? I want Stafford to hit the OPEN MAN. I dont want him FORCING balls to Jackson. Yes D Jax could have ZERO catches in a game and still be a HUGE factor. Ya ever see an Aaron Donald stat line? Some games he has 1 tackle. Does that mean he sucks? No, his mere presence opened things up for others. Same with Jalen Ramsey. He doesnt have high INT numbers. They DONT THROW at him.

BTW, we must need a new Head Coach if this guy is going after "non factors." Who should we get?

coaches make bad decisions on FA's all the time. you can't hit on every pick up. Let's not compare AD to Jackson. while I agree with you on this to a point I want to see how this pans out. If teams truly do fear DSJ and it frees up the field than absolutely it is a positive. If we are in a situation where he has hammy issues or whatever then it won't be a positive.

[ocram23]

coaches make bad decisions on FA's all the time. you can't hit on every pick up. Let's not compare AD to Jackson. while I agree with you on this to a point I want to see how this pans out. If teams truly do fear DSJ and it frees up the field than absolutely it is a positive. If we are in a situation where he has hammy issues or whatever then it won't be a positive.

Totally agree Buddy. And if he gets cut in the Preseason I'll come on here and say I was wr.rrrrr...

he won't get cut. I think he could add something positive to the team just not expecting much

[NorCal RF]

Steve Smith was a marvel of nature.

Desean Jackson
Years 11-13 (his last three seasons):

774 yds, 4 TDs
159, 2
236, 1

Steve Smith
Years 11-13 (he played 16 seasons):

1,394 yds, 4 TDs
1,174, 4
745, 6

In Smith’s 14th season he went:

1,065 yds, 6 TDs

If DJax all of a sudden turns into late career Steve Smith it will be just dandy but it will also be against the way Jackson is trending.

Boy, McVay must be an idiot for signing him then...

Mike harkin simply provided statistical facts. We all hope that DJax goes back to prior 2019. But to always pull the McVay card when someone is simply outlining stats that are accurate..........

[Cornell29]

I'm just hoping low-use DeSean can last a season.

If he ended the season with something like 500 yards? It would have been a huge success, imo.

This
A bigger success if he can become the rams punt returner.

[NorCal RF]

Mike harkin simply provided statistical facts. We all hope that DJax goes back to prior 2019. But to always pull the McVay card when someone is simply outlining stats that are accurate..........

I get that. Not really asking him to put up Smith's stats, just looking for a similar comparison, age and size wise. And to pull out the McVay card yet again, YES, McVay knows what he needs in a receiving corps. I'm gonna bet along with Sean that Jackson stays healthy IN L.A (opposed to shitshow Philly) and with Stafford.

But it was ok for Cornell to pull the Proehl comparison yesterday that was based on nothing factual?

Again if it fits our view..................

[Cornell29]

I get that. Not really asking him to put up Smith's stats, just looking for a similar comparison, age and size wise. And to pull out the McVay card yet again, YES, McVay knows what he needs in a receiving corps. I'm gonna bet along with Sean that Jackson stays healthy IN L.A (opposed to shitshow Philly) and with Stafford.

But it was ok for Cornell to pull the Proehl comparison yesterday that was based on nothing factual?

Again if it fits our view..................

I asked if anybody were worried about Proehl stealing away catches from Holt and Hakim like people are worried about Jackson stealing catches from VJ?

I was just making the point that only because you have a vet wr on the team it doesn't stop the young wrs from their shine. Despite Proehl being on the team it didn't slow Holt and Hakim growth.

[toast49]

Jackson is another weapon McVay can deploy in the offense. He'll add a deep threat, but won't play as many snaps as a Woods, or Cupp

[Cornell29]

Imo VJ and Kupp will both start opposite of Woods depending on the game.
In 3 wr sets Kupp moves inside and VJ moves outside.

D Jackson is a situational player who will only be used in certain situations/packages depending on down and distance and if the opposing defense safeties are playing close to the LOS.

[harkin]

We have very good receivers but receivers also can get hurt.

Reynolds is gone now so an injury to Kupp, Woods and/or VJ would be huge.

DJax may be a help as a field-stretcher OR a replacement starter, IF he also can stay healthier than he has lately.

As to returns, in the last four years he’s had:

9 punt returns for 21 total yards.

1 kickoff return for 8 yards.

Plus he’s not returned a punt for a TD since 2010.

And returning punts also increases chance of injury, so asking him to handle punts might be tempting fate.

[D-GenerationX]

Imo VJ and Kupp will both start opposite of Woods depending on the game.
In 3 wr sets Kupp moves inside and VJ moves outside.

D Jackson is a situational player who will only be used in certain situations/packages depending on down and distance and if the opposing defense safeties are playing close to the LOS.

Agree with all of that.

He will be used early in games to test defenses and try and grab a big play early.

I don't know how much he plays down the stretch of a tight game.

[NN1Badboy]

That "gang ties" story was 100% bullshit and complete disgrace.

Are you sure about that? I’ve always been told that if it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck............then it’s probably a DUCK!!!!

Nobody really knows. Michael Vick wasn’t in a gang either, but his best friend did time in the penitentiary for selling crack on a street corner with his other gang buddies. But most people don’t know that story.

[Cornell29]

That "gang ties" story was 100% bullshit and complete disgrace.

Are you sure about that? I’ve always been told that if it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck............then it’s probably a DUCK!!!!

Nobody really knows. Michael Vick wasn’t in a gang either, but his best friend did time in the penitentiary for selling crack on a street corner with his other gang buddies. But most people don’t know that story.

I live in Philly area. The gang ties was BS. The gang ties fake story was many years ago (D Jack first time with the eagles) and the eagles brought D Jack back a few years back. Which further proves how much BS that gang ties story was.

[Commish]

If we keep the 57th pick, we will draft a fast #1 WR. Nothing has changed.

That makes virtually no sense at all... :P

ram pathos...

--The Commish

[D-GenerationX]

I live in Philly area. The gang ties was BS. The gang ties fake story was many years ago (D Jack first time with the eagles) and the eagles brought D Jack back a few years back. Which further proves how much BS that gang ties story was.

Yep.

[Cornell29]

Rams were interested in Ross but Giants got him

But they also wanted a burner to pair with Kupp and Woods as targets for Matthew Stafford. That’s why the Rams looked at John Ross, who signed with the Giants, before eventually signing 34-year-old DeSean Jackson for that role.