Wolfie in trouble?

[Rampager66]

Bottom post of the previous page:

When Goff played the cards, Did highbee or any other player drop a perfect pass for a td ? No. Did Akers fumble the ball at 1 yard line ? No.

Also if you can't see the o line failed wolf miserably in that game, ( while they protected Goff pretty well in their first encounter) you need to pay more attention to the actual game.

It is easy to say of Goff was playing Arizona instead of Wolfe we would have lost the game because AZ brought the heat and their d line completely dominated our o line in that day and we all know what happens to Goff when he is under pressure. Goff would have finished that game with 4 turnovers and we would have lost.

Nope, that's just your opinion and I disgree with it. Nor do I care for fabricated or projected scenarios.

What we do know is Wolf and Goff played with the same talent and Goff has a excellent track record against AZ. The rest of what you say is speculation by in large.

Yeah you see that a lot. What ifs for one side and opinions being sold as fact..... To hear some tell it Wolford belongs in the Pro Bowl or something... Fact is for the 5 Quarters, 5 minutes and 40 seconds he was our starting QB, his offense got outscored 14-12 by the opposition.... and I'm giving him credit for the 1st FG of WC weekend in Seattle on the drive he got injured and Goff finished... Wolford, like Stafford gets every excuse you can imagine and Goff, just the blame....

[Rampager66]

The 21st ranking IMO is iffy at best. His sample size is small. He could rank higher or lower.
If he's the guy, he's the guy and I'll get behind him the second he's on the roster like with everyone else.
Don't always like them.... but AFAIC there's no face once the gear goes on. Just a Ram.

Yep.

It's all a guess - though CBS sports is one of more legit NFL sources IMO. Again who knows with extremely limited sample sizes as you say…look at the 10 or 15 ahead of Wolford for that matter. For the most part, the only players that are rated high are the players drafted/projected to be starters. Beyond that, the best back-ups are still comprised of those who failed as starters.

Some fans keep acting like other teams having solid back-ups as a simple given = uh no, just the opposite. A back-up stepping in for a franchise QB without missing a beat would be pretty rare. Maybe some early (game or two) success, but c'mon be realistic. NFL QB is the hardest job in Pro sports. If you are cut out to be an NFL starter, you likely already are one - this isn't the 60's.

It's actually a testament to Wolfold that he impressed coaches and experts in the amount of time that he did. He was about the only thing happening offensively in a positive way in that AZ game, the most important game of the year obviously to that point. AZ was playing with definite playoff intensity on defense. We couldn't pass block well. Couldn't run block/no run game. Couldn't catch. Made stupid penalties. Wolford was easily the best performer on a McVay offense in his first NFL start (again basically a playoff game). He made the important plays. His teammates were mostly missing in action.

My guess? The 2020 Goff would have lost that game. McVay reportedly loved what he had in Wolford (compared to Goff of course). Wolford played his way into starter in the playoffs. Goff played his way out of town. Goff's thumb? Did it look bad in their Green Bay game? McVay obviously knew what Goff's physical condition was - yet it's likely he would have gone with Wolford if he would have cleared. After 4 years with McVay, Goff was the second option over the rookie. Again the thumb? Look how beat up Murray was in that AZ game, yet they went with him (i.e. he appeared much worse physically than Goff).

If Wolford gets beat out at back-up, great. That just means somebody outplayed him.

Goff lost his job to injury, period. I don't know what game you watched or how much acid you dropped before the fact but thats quite the imagination you got going here...the Rams best Offensive player in my mind , was the kicker who scored 10 of the 18 points... to single handedly win the game. Including the 3 FG's we had to settle for every time Wolford failed to get the team into the End Zone... 0-3 for the day. the Goff lead offense 3 weeks earlier AT the same team went 4-5 in that regard
I've heard some pretty ridiculous shit from you before RP, but to actually try and put out that Wolford was the only effective Rams Offensive player and assume he carried the team is the new winner.... imo of course.... 8-)

And BTW, please explain how 2020 Goff would have lost that game, one where our defense completely stuffed the Cards Offense after they capitalized on Wolfords pick in Q 1.

[Yorkshire Ram]

Nope, that's just your opinion and I disgree with it. Nor do I care for fabricated or projected scenarios.

What we do know is Wolf and Goff played with the same talent and Goff has a excellent track record against AZ. The rest of what you say is speculation by in large.

Yeah you see that a lot. What ifs for one side and opinions being sold as fact..... To hear some tell it Wolford belongs in the Pro Bowl or something... Fact is for the 5 Quarters, 5 minutes and 40 seconds he was our starting QB, his offense got outscored 14-12 by the opposition.... and I'm giving him credit for the 1st FG of WC weekend in Seattle on the drive he got injured and Goff finished... Wolford, like Stafford gets every excuse you can imagine and Goff, just the blame....

The fact is, the second post on this thread was one hoping that Wolford is cut. He's no pro bowler but he showed promise and gained plaudits as a serviceable back up in his limited game time in two very intense games.

On that showing, he does not deserve to be cut in my opinion. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, that one seems slightly unreasonable and is probably the reason the whole debate kicked off again?

[Rampager66]

Yeah you see that a lot. What ifs for one side and opinions being sold as fact..... To hear some tell it Wolford belongs in the Pro Bowl or something... Fact is for the 5 Quarters, 5 minutes and 40 seconds he was our starting QB, his offense got outscored 14-12 by the opposition.... and I'm giving him credit for the 1st FG of WC weekend in Seattle on the drive he got injured and Goff finished... Wolford, like Stafford gets every excuse you can imagine and Goff, just the blame....

The fact is, the second post on this thread was one hoping that Wolford is cut. He's no pro bowler but he showed promise and gained plaudits as a serviceable back up in his limited game time in two very intense games.

On that showing, he does not deserve to be cut in my opinion. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, that one seems slightly unreasonable and is probably the reason the whole debate kicked off again?

I'm not on the cut him side of this... well not yet anyways. Not til I see we have better and to be fair, right now, imo, we don't. I'm just not buying the narrative that the guy accomplished more then Goff did or took his job because of his play.
From what I saw, the best part of JW's game leaves him vulnerable to injury. That and that the team couldn't put it in the End Zone with him in there... are my main concerns.

[Bulldawg]

Lynn runs a mulitple offense with spread principles. Which is something I've wished McVay would implement more to help combat the pressure. Surprisingly enough Goff did really well under pressure in college. I think him being in shotgun really helped then. As with McVays offense he's mostly always under center and having to sale play action which is great when you have time. Goff also struggles with pressure up the middle more so then outside pressure. The Lions have a top 3 center in Ragnow. Due to scheme and personnel what worked against the Rams scheme might not work as well against the Lions and what they will be trying to do.

Lions probably once more won't have much of a running game. Beyond Penei Sewell, the Lions largely went defense in the draft. I love the Sewell pick, but still a tough spot for a young player (age 20). Free agency didn't help Goff either (receiver). The Lions are in rebuilding mode safe to say. Simply put, I certainly don't expect him to be more successful than Stafford in Detroit - the Lions coaching staff is a question mark until they prove otherwise (Lynn is not missed by fans in San Diego).

Yes Goff seems well suited in a hurry up and shot-gun, but again, if any QB ever needed time (when the play action wasn't buying him some, ouch). He will need to get the ball out quickly. Will he even be looking downfield?

Regardless, I'm thinking he'll be hearing AD's footsteps when facing the Rams…Lions with around a 5 win total season doesn't seem out of reason. Are the Lions even trying to win this year? Most mocks have them taking a QB with a top selection. But Goff's a good guy. I'd like to see him succeed.

Actually, Swift will be good this year. I think the Lions will rely on him a lot. I do expect a lot of his touches to come from passes. Remember, he came from the same college as Gurley and Nick Chubb. ;-P

[brasilrams]

The fact is, the second post on this thread was one hoping that Wolford is cut. He's no pro bowler but he showed promise and gained plaudits as a serviceable back up in his limited game time in two very intense games.

On that showing, he does not deserve to be cut in my opinion. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, that one seems slightly unreasonable and is probably the reason the whole debate kicked off again?

I'm not on the cut him side of this... well not yet anyways. Not til I see we have better and to be fair, right now, imo, we don't. I'm just not buying the narrative that the guy accomplished more then Goff did or took his job because of his play.
From what I saw, the best part of JW's game leaves him vulnerable to injury. That and that the team couldn't put it in the End Zone with him in there... are my main concerns.

oh , he did took his job because of his play ( not that this is a big feature on its own because goff;s play was so bad that didn't take much to do better than him and take his job ) . The only reason Goff was the starter against GB was because wolfie got hurt .You might not like his play and that is your opinion ( although to me , it is insane that you keep blaming him for lack of points when akers fumble the ball at the one yard line and highbee drops a perfect dime in the end zone ) but you cannot deny facts . It was well documented back then , that if wolf was healthy he would have been the starter against GB , and goff , although injured , was totally capable of playing and YET he would not play if wolfie was healthy . I can't find the link now but I read that whole team felt DEFLATED when they realized wolf could not play , that is how much they believed in goff .

[brasilrams]

True Facts. WELL Documented that Wolfie was McVays starter going forward.

Except McVay never said that!!!

It's well documented that McVay said there might be a competition with Goff and Wolford going forward. However, Goff was traded and that never materialized.

Guys c'mon now. Quit posting over feelings and start dealing with facts.

I think it is pretty obvious from all coaches and players statements back then . Just answer me something : Why was wolford the starter against seattle when goff was perfectly CAPABLE of playing ? Because He was, right ? We all saw him going there after wolfie got hurt and play just fine . The logic that " goff was the back up because he was injured " is a false logic . If you are injured you don't dress and you don't go out and perform if the starter gets hurt .

[ocram23]

I liked him better than Goff at the end. I like him as our QB2 now. Boner? I got a Boner for Kerris Dorsey....

Mike, Kerris? Really? The girl from money ball? Gross.

Speaking of Boners and Goff... No way she is moving to Detroit. No way, like ever.

https://www.instagram.com/christenharpe ... ff7b17fc07

she is so hot

[FelixTheStonerCat]

No he had passer rating of 90. Which has been the main metric for passing stats for decades. This really shouldn't be complicated brasil.

I was talking qb rating not passer rating. It doesn't matter much because I am sure that if I search qbr and passer rating, it doesn't matter which site, Goff will be bottom 10 in both metrics for the 2020 season.( And 2019)

I know you hate Jared Goff but he was ranked 23rd in QB rating out of 35 eligible players.

[brasilrams]

I was talking qb rating not passer rating. It doesn't matter much because I am sure that if I search qbr and passer rating, it doesn't matter which site, Goff will be bottom 10 in both metrics for the 2020 season.( And 2019)

I know you hate Jared Goff but he was ranked 23rd in QB rating out of 35 eligible players.

We have 32 starters and he was ranked 23rd . Is that good ? that is bottom 10 .

[Rampager66]

I'm not on the cut him side of this... well not yet anyways. Not til I see we have better and to be fair, right now, imo, we don't. I'm just not buying the narrative that the guy accomplished more then Goff did or took his job because of his play.
From what I saw, the best part of JW's game leaves him vulnerable to injury. That and that the team couldn't put it in the End Zone with him in there... are my main concerns.

Right. So Cam SCORES from the 1 instead of FUMBLING at the 1, THEN Wolford can "put it in the end zone," this kind o stuff is too funny....LMAO

Not half as funny as the constant excuses you make for Wolford or anyone else you support that you won't allow for those you don't.. :?

[Commish]

oh , he did took his job because of his play ( not that this is a big feature on its own because goff;s play was so bad that didn't take much to do better than him and take his job ) . The only reason Goff was the starter against GB was because wolfie got hurt .

So it was purely an incredible, one-in-a-million coincidence that Jared Goff suffered a broken thumb on his throwing hand mere moments after Sean McVay apparently (by your 'reckoning' anyway) had *already* decided to replace him, along with his 7-0 record vs. the Cardinals under McVay's coaching, as the starting QB in our team's 'win-to-get-in' season finale against the Cardinals, hmmmm?

Wow, how truly amazing!

To quote numerous operatives of KAOS, "I find that very difficult to believe..." :? :o

ram pathos...

--The Commish

[Rampager66]

I'm not on the cut him side of this... well not yet anyways. Not til I see we have better and to be fair, right now, imo, we don't. I'm just not buying the narrative that the guy accomplished more then Goff did or took his job because of his play.
From what I saw, the best part of JW's game leaves him vulnerable to injury. That and that the team couldn't put it in the End Zone with him in there... are my main concerns.

oh , he did took his job because of his play ( not that this is a big feature on its own because goff;s play was so bad that didn't take much to do better than him and take his job ) . The only reason Goff was the starter against GB was because wolfie got hurt .You might not like his play and that is your opinion ( although to me , it is insane that you keep blaming him for lack of points when akers fumble the ball at the one yard line and highbee drops a perfect dime in the end zone ) but you cannot deny facts . It was well documented back then , that if wolf was healthy he would have been the starter against GB , and goff , although injured , was totally capable of playing and YET he would not play if wolfie was healthy . I can't find the link now but I read that whole team felt DEFLATED when they realized wolf could not play , that is how much they believed in goff .

No he did not take his job because of his play, no matter how many times you say it....he took his job because of Goffs broken thumb. Funny how you only see that as Goff taking his that way...
It's insane that you keep making adolescent level excuses for a guy with zero success and award him some alleged points that would have happened IF.....
And BTW if Wolford doesn't get hurt and Goff doesn't come in, we don't beat the Hags imo, or get to face GB. When his injury happened he had led us to 3 FG's in 4 Quarters + another 5:40 at the start of the WC game and left with that game scoreless.
With Goff in there, we took the game over and grabbed a 30-13 lead in approximately 3 Quarters before a Hags garbage time TD made it a 30-20 final
Seems they didn't commit the miscues you use in your excuses for Wolford when Goff was in there, suddenly.... hmmm
And why am I not surprised that you can't find that link?
We're not going to agree on this brasil old buddy....

[RamPower]

oh , he did took his job because of his play ( not that this is a big feature on its own because goff;s play was so bad that didn't take much to do better than him and take his job ) . The only reason Goff was the starter against GB was because wolfie got hurt .

So it was purely an incredible, one-in-a-million coincidence that Jared Goff suffered a broken thumb on his throwing hand mere moments after Sean McVay apparently (by your 'reckoning' anyway) had *already* decided to replace him, along with his 7-0 record vs. the Cardinals under McVay's coaching, as the starting QB in our team's 'win-to-get-in' season finale against the Cardinals, hmmmm?

Wow, how truly amazing!

To quote numerous operatives of KAOS, "I find that very difficult to believe..." :? :o

ram pathos...

--The Commish

I'm not sure what your point is, but if it's Goff (all by himself!) was 7-0 vs. AZ, thus a no-brainer to start moving forward regardless, then....yes he broke his thumb obviously. But that's not the whole story here...

Goff had been trending down with his play for two seasons. 2020, yes he looked bottom 10 for QB starters. Do I blame him as the only offensive issue? No. There were reasons for his downward spiral beyond his own signature skill-set. But clearly McVay had lost a ton of confidence in him. Perhaps some teammates too? I don't think that would be considered a stretch. But whatever, his skill-set wasn't working consistently with the current roster. It clearly WASN'T an offense that would challenge for any more wins in post season. Yes, the broken thumb clearly sidelined him, but again...

McVay had spent years (4) and countless hours with Goff. Goff who happened to be one of the highest paid players in the NFL.. Sure, forced to sit with the hand injury. Cue the kid. The undrafted QB with ZERO NFL game experience was going to start in the Rams biggest 2020 game to date. How would he play? Who the hell ever knows in this situation?

Well, I think McVay loved what he saw by game's end. He was the only player on offense to rise to the occasion that day. He impressed a lot of people around the League. Those are actual facts. So roll out all the poindexter game stats you want, they are obviously misleading (just ask the players and coaches about Wolford vs. AZ).

McVay saw Goff in practice the  following week, and went with Wolford without hesitation it appeared. Yes Goff, who could throw the ball somewhat effectively by then (as we saw in SEA). Goff came in and gutted it out after the cheap shot to Wolford to help assist in the win. Great. Of course a starting QB has to be really hurting to sit and not play in today's NFL. I mean, did you see what Murray was going thru the week before?

So sure. Goff with his vast experience in the NFL with McVay...and that SEA playoff win and healing thumb would clearly start vs. Green Bay right? Not so fast my friend. I think it's pretty clear it STILL would have been Wolford. It's what we were hearing during the week. (and a coach wouldn't purposely upset an actual starter, right?).

Digest that. Of course we'll never know...but, let's get facts straight I keep hearing. Yeah, let's do. McVay moved on from Goff as fast as he could in the off-season, paying a huge trading price in the process...yep, even with all Goff's wins. Imagine that...

[brasilrams]

oh , he did took his job because of his play ( not that this is a big feature on its own because goff;s play was so bad that didn't take much to do better than him and take his job ) . The only reason Goff was the starter against GB was because wolfie got hurt .You might not like his play and that is your opinion ( although to me , it is insane that you keep blaming him for lack of points when akers fumble the ball at the one yard line and highbee drops a perfect dime in the end zone ) but you cannot deny facts . It was well documented back then , that if wolf was healthy he would have been the starter against GB , and goff , although injured , was totally capable of playing and YET he would not play if wolfie was healthy . I can't find the link now but I read that whole team felt DEFLATED when they realized wolf could not play , that is how much they believed in goff .

No he did not take his job because of his play, no matter how many times you say it....he took his job because of Goffs broken thumb.

- Nope . Wrong again . Because of his play , which was abysmal during the season ( that is why he ranked bottom 10 in any rankings and that is ALSO why they traded him ) .

Funny how you only see that as Goff taking his that way...
It's insane that you keep making adolescent level excuses for a guy with zero success and award him some alleged points that would have happened IF.....

- It is insane how can you blame lack of points on a qb that consistently drove the ball downfield despite insane pressure on him on every snap ( o line completely dominated in that game ) and the RB fumbles at the 1 yard line and the TE drops a perfect pass for a TD , but yeah let's blame the QB for the lack of points. Really smart and coherent .

And BTW if Wolford doesn't get hurt and Goff doesn't come in, we don't beat the Hags imo, or get to face GB. When his injury happened he had led us to 3 FG's in 4 Quarters + another 5:40 at the start of the WC game and left with that game scoreless.
With Goff in there, we took the game over and grabbed a 30-13 lead in approximately 3 Quarters before a Hags garbage time TD made it a 30-20 final

- Keyword there : IMO . Well said . Now I can ADD that IMO , it is impossible to know if we would have beat the hags with wolfie but I THINK we would . He was doing just fine until getting hurt .

Seems they didn't commit the miscues you use in your excuses for Wolford when Goff was in there, suddenly.... hmmm
And why am I not surprised that you can't find that link?
We're not going to agree on this brasil old buddy....

- I can't find the link because I have more important shit to do then to search for a link . I know what I read . The thing is mcvay never publicly said : Goff is now our back up and wolf our starter . but he HINTED to that being the actual situation , many times . What he actually SAID is that there would be QB competition for the starting spot going into the next season ( before they shipped goff ) . That alone is freaking PATHETIC for goff and just shows how bad his 19 and 20 season were . He would have to compete for his job with a nobody . The 120 m dollar first overall pick competing for the starting job with a wall street guy that never played more than 2 games in the NFL . Just shows how bad goff became in the last 2 seasons . Any adolescent can see that but some in here , apparently can't .

[brasilrams]

So it was purely an incredible, one-in-a-million coincidence that Jared Goff suffered a broken thumb on his throwing hand mere moments after Sean McVay apparently (by your 'reckoning' anyway) had *already* decided to replace him, along with his 7-0 record vs. the Cardinals under McVay's coaching, as the starting QB in our team's 'win-to-get-in' season finale against the Cardinals, hmmmm?

Wow, how truly amazing!

To quote numerous operatives of KAOS, "I find that very difficult to believe..." :? :o

ram pathos...

--The Commish

I'm not sure what your point is, but if it's Goff (all by himself!) was 7-0 vs. AZ, thus a no-brainer to start moving forward regardless, then....yes he broke his thumb obviously. But that's not the whole story here...

Goff had been trending down with his play for two seasons. 2020, yes he looked bottom 10 for QB starters. Do I blame him as the only offensive issue? No. There were reasons for his downward spiral beyond his own signature skill-set. But clearly McVay had lost a ton of confidence in him. Perhaps some teammates too? I don't think that would be considered a stretch. But whatever, his skill-set wasn't working consistently with the current roster. It clearly WASN'T an offense that would challenge for any more wins in post season. Yes, the broken thumb clearly sidelined him, but again...

McVay had spent years (4) and countless hours with Goff. Goff who happened to be one of the highest paid players in the NFL.. Sure, forced to sit with the hand injury. Cue the kid. The undrafted QB with ZERO NFL game experience was going to start in the Rams biggest 2020 game to date. How would he play? Who the hell ever knows in this situation?

Well, I think McVay loved what he saw by game's end. He was the only player on offense to rise to the occasion that day. He impressed a lot of people around the League. Those are actual facts. So roll out all the poindexter game stats you want, they are obviously misleading (just ask the players and coaches about Wolford vs. AZ).

McVay saw Goff in practice the  following week, and went with Wolford without hesitation it appeared. Yes Goff, who could throw the ball somewhat effectively by then (as we saw in SEA). Goff came in and gutted it out after the cheap shot to Wolford to help assist in the win. Great. Of course a starting QB has to be really hurting to sit and not play in today's NFL. I mean, did you see what Murray was going thru the week before?

So sure. Goff with his vast experience in the NFL with McVay...and that SEA playoff win and healing thumb would clearly start vs. Green Bay right? Not so fast my friend. I think it's pretty clear it STILL would have been Wolford. It's what we were hearing during the week. (and a coach wouldn't purposely upset an actual starter, right?).

Digest that. Of course we'll never know...but, let's get facts straight I keep hearing. Yeah, let's do. McVay moved on from Goff as fast as he could in the off-season, paying a huge trading price in the process...yep, even with all Goff's wins. Imagine that...

Great post as always rampower .

[brasilrams]

- I can't find the link because I have more important *** to do then to search for a link . I know what I read . The thing is mcvay never publicly said : Goff is now our back up and wolf our starter . but he HINTED to that being the actual situation , many times . What he actually SAID is that there would be QB competition for the starting spot going into the next season ( before they shipped goff ) . That alone is freaking PATHETIC for goff and just shows how bad his 19 and 20 season were . He would have to compete for his job with a nobody . The 120 m dollar first overall pick competing for the starting job with a wall street guy that never played more than 2 games in the NFL . Just shows how bad goff became in the last 2 seasons . Any adolescent can see that but some in here , apparently can't .

Lets just thank God for Goff. If not for him we would never hear from you brasil.

Adolescents aside, I don't think anyone was happy with Goff the last couple years. But really hyperbole aside. If it were as bad as you allow yourself to belive the Rams wouldn’t have had back to back winning seasons in 19/20. It's a mute point but...you don't have to torture yourself anymore braisl. It's over now. ;)

LOL , I talk about other stuff too man , c'mon :mrgreen:

Fair points about the winning seasons but the 19 season was a " winning season " ? heee....sorta ..... 9-7 is barely a winning season and No playoffs right ? , so , IMO not really good . The 2020 season our offense was terrible ( goff leading the league in Tos and 22 points per game only overall , good enough for 23rd in the league ) and the only reason we went to the playoffs was because of our number 1 ranked defense in every CATEGORY that matters ( pass defense , run defense and of course , points per game allowed ) . I credit that to staley , AD and ramsey . Couldn't keep staley but we still have AD and Ramsey . Go rams

[Commish]

McVay saw Goff in practice the  following week, and went with Wolford without hesitation it appeared. Yes Goff, who could throw the ball somewhat effectively by then (as we saw in SEA).

"Somewhat effectively," hmmmm?

Jared Goff was four-for-twelve in completions until sometime in the fourth quarter, when he hit on his final four passes to help our team secure that 'wild card' postseason upset over the Seahawks.

It was certainly a gritty, gutsy performance by him, however it was obvious that Goff couldn't pass with any consistent effectiveness. Not that I'm blaming him, after all he had a broken thumb on his throwing hand--yet he still took the field and led his team to victory, albeit while struggling with passing accuracy.

Sean McVay's choice about which injured QB to start in the divisional-round playoff matchup vs. the Packers was made for him, because John Wolford ended up being medically ruled out. I'm unaware that McVay had already announced any decision on the question of the Rams starting QB, it seemed to me that he simply waited to find out whether or not Wolford was physically able to play--which he wasn't, as it turned out.

Goff ended up performing quite competently at QB in his last game as one of the Good Guys, however our team's defensive collapse made his efforts futile in the long run. My guess is that Wolford, even if at full health, quite likely couldn't have led the Rams to victory that day.

I'll always appreciate what Goff did for our team, helping return it to competitive relevance, and I'm hoping that he'll have a solid 2021 season with the Lions--except on October 24th, of course... ;) 8-) :geek:

ram pathos...

--The Commish

[Yorkshire Ram]

McVay saw Goff in practice the  following week, and went with Wolford without hesitation it appeared. Yes Goff, who could throw the ball somewhat effectively by then (as we saw in SEA).

"Somewhat effectively," hmmmm?

Jared Goff was four-for-twelve in completions until sometime in the fourth quarter, when he hit on his final four passes to help our team secure that 'wild card' postseason upset over the Seahawks.

It was certainly a gritty, gutsy performance by him, however it was obvious that Goff couldn't pass with any consistent effectiveness. Not that I'm blaming him, after all he had a broken thumb on his throwing hand--yet he still took the field and led his team to victory, albeit while struggling with passing accuracy.

Sean McVay's choice about which injured QB to start in the divisional-round playoff matchup vs. the Packers was made for him, because John Wolford ended up being medically ruled out. I'm unaware that McVay had already announced any decision on the question of the Rams starting QB, it seemed to me that he simply waited to find out whether or not Wolford was physically able to play--which he wasn't, as it turned out.

Goff ended up performing quite competently at QB in his last game as one of the Good Guys, however our team's defensive collapse made his efforts futile in the long run. My guess is that Wolford, even if at full health, quite likely couldn't have led the Rams to victory that day.

I'll always appreciate what Goff did for our team, helping return it to competitive relevance, and I'm hoping that he'll have a solid 2021 season with the Lions--except on October 24th, of course... ;) 8-) :geek:

ram pathos...

--The Commish

This I agree with. However I felt about Goff's regression over the last 2 seasons, he played well in the GB game when he was probably 2 or 3 weeks away from being 100% fit to play. That was tough and I wish him well moving forward.

[Rampager66]

No he did not take his job because of his play, no matter how many times you say it....he took his job because of Goffs broken thumb.

- Nope . Wrong again . Because of his play , which was abysmal during the season ( that is why he ranked bottom 10 in any rankings and that is ALSO why they traded him ) .

Funny how you only see that as Goff taking his that way...
It's insane that you keep making adolescent level excuses for a guy with zero success and award him some alleged points that would have happened IF.....

- It is insane how can you blame lack of points on a qb that consistently drove the ball downfield despite insane pressure on him on every snap ( o line completely dominated in that game ) and the RB fumbles at the 1 yard line and the TE drops a perfect pass for a TD , but yeah let's blame the QB for the lack of points. Really smart and coherent .

And BTW if Wolford doesn't get hurt and Goff doesn't come in, we don't beat the Hags imo, or get to face GB. When his injury happened he had led us to 3 FG's in 4 Quarters + another 5:40 at the start of the WC game and left with that game scoreless.
With Goff in there, we took the game over and grabbed a 30-13 lead in approximately 3 Quarters before a Hags garbage time TD made it a 30-20 final

- Keyword there : IMO . Well said . Now I can ADD that IMO , it is impossible to know if we would have beat the hags with wolfie but I THINK we would . He was doing just fine until getting hurt .

Seems they didn't commit the miscues you use in your excuses for Wolford when Goff was in there, suddenly.... hmmm
And why am I not surprised that you can't find that link?
We're not going to agree on this brasil old buddy....

- I can't find the link because I have more important *** to do then to search for a link . I know what I read . The thing is mcvay never publicly said : Goff is now our back up and wolf our starter . but he HINTED to that being the actual situation , many times . What he actually SAID is that there would be QB competition for the starting spot going into the next season ( before they shipped goff ) . That alone is freaking PATHETIC for goff and just shows how bad his 19 and 20 season were . He would have to compete for his job with a nobody . The 120 m dollar first overall pick competing for the starting job with a wall street guy that never played more than 2 games in the NFL . Just shows how bad goff became in the last 2 seasons . Any adolescent can see that but some in here , apparently can't .

Fact is the Rams had 10 total Drives the Arizona game that Wolford was the QB for the whole game... 10 drives.... 5 punts... 3 FG's... 1 INT and 1 drive where the half ended...
They had 70 total Offensive plays and got 9 points from them... to the Cards 7 points from 49 plays... Red Zone Rams 0-4... Cards 1-2

The Cards QB's were the ones under siege all game, they were pressured, sacked, hit and defended more then Wolford was.
The Cards back up QB, a CFL back up 2 years ago, managed to get his team into the end zone the 1 time he was given the opportunity to, after the Wolford Pick, vs the leagues No.1 Defense.

And no any adolescent can't see it, they usually make up what they want to see instead and then claim they have better things to do then research their BS.

[Bulldawg]

I hope they cut Wolford. He's barely serviceable as a backup. Hopefully someone else steps up.

WARNING...OH BOY.... the gloves have come off.

BE READY FOR SOME SPARKS W THIS... LOL. Good one Toast.

Hope you're ready for the BLAST.

For all kids and ladies... maybe click out of this post now. Its about to get real dirty...

Haha...you can say that again. ;-)

[Yorkshire Ram]

Haha...you can say that again. ;-)

The funny thing is, the REAL funny thing is, us "Wolford guys" hope he doesn't take a snap in 2021. Wouldnt even mind Perkins beating him out. These Goff losers frame it like we're puffing Wolfie up to be some kind of League wide Top QB but that cant be further from the case. Only when paired up to bottom QB (24-32) did we prefer him. LOL. Let the babies have their way

Absolutely spot on.

[sanbagger]

Perkins new nickname is "Silver Bullet"...because that's the only thing that can take down a Wolfman

[toast49]

BREAKING NEWS------ Goff is no longer a member of the Los Angeles Rams. WE, Rams fans, NEVER have to worry about how he plays in the future or how he played in the past again. Goff is on the Lions, with a new team and a new coach. Goff MAY regain his confidence and his ability to throw a football, or he MAY NOT. He is the Lions problem to fix. WHO WILL BE THE RAMS BACKUP QB??? NOBODY CARES !!!! This year the Stafford trade to the Rams is the NFL's hype QB trade topic for '21, like Brady to the Bucs last season. It took over half a season , for Brady and the Bucs to get it going. We don't know what will happen with Stafford and the Rams , but the NFL hype machine is in full gear. The hype is out of control. Is there a goat horn/crescent moon helmet Jinx ? Is that what happened to Goff last season? The Rams helmet jinx, is that what put Wolford out??? The Rams still have time to fix their helmets before the season starts. Once Stafford puts on the goat horn/crescent moon helmet WILL IT BE TOO LATE ??? Rams, we a begging you,# FIX THE HELMET/ STOP THE JINX !!!! Get rid of those jinx logos, too.

The crescent moon jinx. I love it.

[brasilrams]

- I can't find the link because I have more important *** to do then to search for a link . I know what I read . The thing is mcvay never publicly said : Goff is now our back up and wolf our starter . but he HINTED to that being the actual situation , many times . What he actually SAID is that there would be QB competition for the starting spot going into the next season ( before they shipped goff ) . That alone is freaking PATHETIC for goff and just shows how bad his 19 and 20 season were . He would have to compete for his job with a nobody . The 120 m dollar first overall pick competing for the starting job with a wall street guy that never played more than 2 games in the NFL . Just shows how bad goff became in the last 2 seasons . Any adolescent can see that but some in here , apparently can't .

Fact is the Rams had 10 total Drives the Arizona game that Wolford was the QB for the whole game... 10 drives.... 5 punts... 3 FG's... 1 INT and 1 drive where the half ended...
They had 70 total Offensive plays and got 9 points from them... to the Cards 7 points from 49 plays... Red Zone Rams 0-4... Cards 1-2

The Cards QB's were the ones under siege all game, they were pressured, sacked, hit and defended more then Wolford was.
The Cards back up QB, a CFL back up 2 years ago, managed to get his team into the end zone the 1 time he was given the opportunity to, after the Wolford Pick, vs the leagues No.1 Defense.

And no any adolescent can't see it, they usually make up what they want to see instead and then claim they have better things to do then research their BS.

To keep blaming the lack of point against AZ - like a broken record - , on wolf just shows how dishonest and biased you are . You want to blame lack of points in that game you point your finger to akers and highbee , those are FACTS , you like it or not . The QB either gives the ball to the RB or throw to Tes and REcs . When the RB fumbles at the 1 yard line and the TE drops a perfect pass , the QB did his job but the teammates didn't .

Wolf played extremely well for a first start in the NFL in a do or die game , and still WON ( got a crucial 3rd down conversion with his LEGS to ice the game BTW ) despite his offense playing like crap ( except the kicker ) . But being a goff's mom you will never see that , you actually hate wolf because he was the one that showed mcvay he needed to get RID of goff . He was basically the one responsible to ship goff outta town .

[toast49]

Fact is the Rams had 10 total Drives the Arizona game that Wolford was the QB for the whole game... 10 drives.... 5 punts... 3 FG's... 1 INT and 1 drive where the half ended...
They had 70 total Offensive plays and got 9 points from them... to the Cards 7 points from 49 plays... Red Zone Rams 0-4... Cards 1-2

The Cards QB's were the ones under siege all game, they were pressured, sacked, hit and defended more then Wolford was.
The Cards back up QB, a CFL back up 2 years ago, managed to get his team into the end zone the 1 time he was given the opportunity to, after the Wolford Pick, vs the leagues No.1 Defense.

And no any adolescent can't see it, they usually make up what they want to see instead and then claim they have better things to do then research their BS.

To keep blaming the lack of point against AZ - like a broken record - , on wolf just shows how dishonest and biased you are . You want to blame lack of points in that game you point your finger to akers and highbee , those are FACTS , you like it or not . The QB either gives the ball to the RB or throw to Tes and REcs . When the RB fumbles at the 1 yard line and the TE drops a perfect pass , the QB did his job but the teammates didn't .

Wolf played extremely well for a first start in the NFL in a do or die game , and still WON ( got a crucial 3rd down conversion with his LEGS to ice the game BTW ) despite his offense playing like crap ( except the kicker ) . But being a goff's mom you will never see that , you actually hate wolf because he was the one that showed mcvay he needed to get RID of goff . He was basically the one responsible to ship goff outta town .

If the O line had played better Wolford would have hung 40 or 50 on the Cards. He was carving those Cards up

[toast49]

If Rams fans when posting on twitter Rams site or any other Rams/NFL site started using # Fix the Helmet/Stop the Jinx , it might get us our horns back. TRY IT!!!

Hastag #FreeTheHorns

[brasilrams]

LOL , I talk about other stuff too man , c'mon :mrgreen:

Fair points about the winning seasons but the 19 season was a " winning season " ? heee....sorta ..... 9-7 is barely a winning season and No playoffs right ? , so , IMO not really good . The 2020 season our offense was terrible ( goff leading the league in Tos and 22 points per game only overall , good enough for 23rd in the league ) and the only reason we went to the playoffs was because of our number 1 ranked defense in every CATEGORY that matters ( pass defense , run defense and of course , points per game allowed ) . I credit that to staley , AD and ramsey . Couldn't keep staley but we still have AD and Ramsey . Go rams

Goff did not lead the NFL in turnovers but he was up there.

By in large you're right about the 2020 season. Even though I do put some of the blame on other aspects of the offense as well. Unfortunately, our defense didn't show up in the GB playoff game and they had a record breaking performance (in a bad way of course). Goff ironically played solid in both playoff games. He may have been not so great stat wise. That said, Goff had a way of rising to the occasion in big games. Beating Tampa on Monday night being the highlight of the year. He was also more clutch then ever given credit for. Though, I'm sure a couple of you would disgree. Anyway, I'm about over this topic. I ordered a new jersey for a new season. Go Rams...

He led for the past 3 years ( total ) , last year , like you said , he was up there . I agree that the offensive issues for 19-20 are not just on goff . There were other problems too of course , BUT he was a part of the problem imo . A huge part , I would say the biggest part . And yes Goff played solid against GB , our D crapped the bed in that game , but it was that same D that got us there in the first place , so ... and we had no AD in that game and he is like 50 % of our D . The d carried that horrible offense on their backs all season long , so there is that to consider too . And about being clutch , goff would be clutch in one game and pretty bad at another . Clear example : clutch against NO then 2 weeks later , horrible against the pats . Since that super bowl he has been too inconsistent . Anyway , like you said , we need to move over from this topic . What I don't understand is that it seems ( not you ) but some guys here love to HATE on wolford , it seems all that hate is simply because they know wolford was the one that showed mcvay he needed to get rid of goff .

[brasilrams]

To keep blaming the lack of point against AZ - like a broken record - , on wolf just shows how dishonest and biased you are . You want to blame lack of points in that game you point your finger to akers and highbee , those are FACTS , you like it or not . The QB either gives the ball to the RB or throw to Tes and REcs . When the RB fumbles at the 1 yard line and the TE drops a perfect pass , the QB did his job but the teammates didn't .

Wolf played extremely well for a first start in the NFL in a do or die game , and still WON ( got a crucial 3rd down conversion with his LEGS to ice the game BTW ) despite his offense playing like crap ( except the kicker ) . But being a goff's mom you will never see that , you actually hate wolf because he was the one that showed mcvay he needed to get RID of goff . He was basically the one responsible to ship goff outta town .

If the O line had played better Wolford would have hung 40 or 50 on the Cards. He was carving those Cards up

oh the irony . Not 50 , but he should have got at least MORE 14 points if akers and highbee didn't crap the bed .

[brasilrams]

Haha...you can say that again. ;-)

The funny thing is, the REAL funny thing is, us "Wolford guys" hope he doesn't take a snap in 2021. Wouldnt even mind Perkins beating him out. These Goff losers frame it like we're puffing Wolfie up to be some kind of League wide Top QB but that cant be further from the case. Only when paired up to bottom QB (24-32) did we prefer him. LOL. Let the babies have their way

Exactly . Like I said , ask me now if I want goff or wolford as a backup to Staff and I will say wolford , from the lil that I saw from him I liked MORE than what I saw from goff 19 / 20 full seasons . Wolford is better than any bottom 10 QB and for 19 and 20 seasons goff was exactly that , a bottom 10 QB . Maybe goff can regain his prime / form ? can play like he used to play in 17-18 ? I doubt it but anything is possible.

[Raminec]

Yup. WOLFORD got Goff shipped out of town. That's why we love him, and always will, even if he never takes another snap for us. Good job Wolfie! Conversely, that why "they" hate him LMAO

Oh boy lots of nonsense from you today Mike....

1. Nobody hates Wolford, really silly for you suggests such.

2. Wolford is not the reason Goff got traded, this makes no sense at all. Like really none.

3. Sorry about your GDS bro, the rest of us have moved on. Well except brasil lol. You should consider joining us Rama fans. But I doubt you will, unfortunately.

+1000
The GDS crew need to definitely needs to move on.