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DMRamFan wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 6:58 pm Not thrilled w this, but not many other options.

Hopefully he can keep his anti-semetic comments to himself… We don’t need that kind of talk, plus LA has a large Jewish community. Just play football DeSean and stay healthy.

I DON’T like this signing, he’s NO WE, it’s all about him plus 34 always hurt. Just hope it doesn’t stop the Rams from drafting a young speedster.

34 year old deep threat and punt returner? Never heard of that before.

I’ll compare him to another small older player Darren Sproles. Sproles also played his age 34,35,36 seasons, but he only played in 3,6,6 games and didn’t do much.

I have zero expectations for this signing.

I doubt he has much left in the tank, but guess we’ll see. Crazy guys like him, Frank Gore, and Adrian Peterson are still in the league

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 5:41 pm And I fuckin CALLED it.....

Are you gonna celebrate like the 40-whiner fans do.... If so you'll have to bend over and grab your Ankles......you might want to grease that hole up 1st........!!! Well let's hope the 34 year old dude can still Run in the 4.3's......Coming outta college he ran a 4.35-40......

Go RAMS : It's always Better to let someone else pat you on the Back ......you can't sprain your arm that way.........

clevelandrams wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 5:59 pm He's too old

he's not to old at 34 :idea: I played Semi Pro Baseball Until I was 39 years old...... Some guys can play into there 40's......!! in the Pro's

Go RAMS : the Guy has the most longest yard TD's in the League he has 24 TD's off of a passing Bomb by the QB...........!!

Any salary numbers yet? I wont make an opinion till I see what Snead has done with $$$

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 7:37 pm

harkin wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 7:35 pm Sure hope not but you may be right, he only played 8 of the last 33 Eagles games 2019/2020.

23 catches, 395 yds, 3 TDs.

Who wasn't hurt on the eagles the last few years?

And how many guys really wanted to get back on the field with that mess last year in Philly?

McVay wants him and he wants to be here-that's all I need to know!

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 6:02 am

Truth wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 12:12 am 34 year old deep threat and punt returner? Never heard of that before.

I’ll compare him to another small older player Darren Sproles. Sproles also played his age 34,35,36 seasons, but he only played in 3,6,6 games and didn’t do much.

I have zero expectations for this signing.

I doubt he has much left in the tank, but guess we’ll see. Crazy guys like him, Frank Gore, and Adrian Peterson are still in the league

How bout Steve Smith also....

I don't know what DeSean has left. His last stint with the eagles was a disappointment. He was always banged up, always hurt.

Even last year he averaged almost 18 YPC. That's what I would expect this year, in this offense. Would be huge.

We don't even know for sure if he will make the team. I have never been a fan of DeSean but let's see what happens during camp and preseason (if we have one). A little competition never hurts and it doesn't prevent us from drafting another WR. I look at this as a 1 year experiment with minimal risk.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 6:00 am

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 8:48 pm Nostradamus congrats I guess. Not a real tough call considering him and McVay’s past.

Fair enough. It was more a response to people who were SURE we were getting Marvin Jones.

Kinda like Watson is for sure being traded without well if this happens I get to change my mind..............

Rams would have obtained Jones if they had the $$. DJax is nothing to get excited about IMO but I do get why they signed him. You take flyers on such a player because of history with HC and more importantly it’s all you can afford to do.

I guess Nsimba Webster is out


How old is this guy?

I hate this signing. As a Rams fan who lives in Eagles territory, I predict that he will never see the field. He is old and has been hurt an inordinate amount of time the last few seasons. A total waste of whatever they are paying him.

Dick84 wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 9:17 pm He's a 4th WR at low $$.. what are people upset about???

I dont know either? He isnt coming here to start. He provides another element for opposing defenses to think about on the 15 to 20 snaps he plays on. Also adds a punt returner.

He's the Ricky Proehl of the offense. The vet player that is used in certain situations and packages.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 6:55 am

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 6:53 am Kinda like Watson is for sure being traded without well if this happens I get to change my mind..............

Rams would have obtained Jones if they had the $$. DJax is nothing to get excited about IMO but I do get why they signed him. You take flyers on such a player because of history with HC and more importantly it’s all you can afford to do.

Wait, Ho. You cant tell me an "extenuating circumstance" didnt completely change the Watson situation, LOL cmon man be fair...

Actually.......... I can Mike.

Football only he isn’t the hot commodity some like you were trying to convince all that he is. And he certainly isn’t worth what Houston is rumored to want in return. The franchise QB tag that some want to give him is well laughable IMO.

Hey he still may get traded and you may have last laugh but if he does I won’t be sold that team made a great trade. I still wish the Niners would give Houston what they want for him.

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 7:36 am

Dick84 wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 9:17 pm He's a 4th WR at low $$.. what are people upset about???

I dont know either? He isnt coming here to start. He provides another element for opposing defenses to think about on the 15 to 20 snaps he plays on. Also adds a punt returner.

He's the Ricky Proehl of the offense. The vet player that is used in certain situations and packages.

That he has played 8 games in 2 years maybe?

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 6:07 pm

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 5:49 pm We got our deep threat AND our Punt Returner in ONE shot.

Yup

We got an IR resident.
Look, I like the guy WHEN HE'S HEALTHY...which is almost never at this point.
I can relate to his situation...and true, it's only 1 year. So I'm not really complaining. I'm just seriously questioning how much use we will get out of him.

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 6:55 am

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 6:53 am Kinda like Watson is for sure being traded without well if this happens I get to change my mind..............

Rams would have obtained Jones if they had the $$. DJax is nothing to get excited about IMO but I do get why they signed him. You take flyers on such a player because of history with HC and more importantly it’s all you can afford to do.

Wait, Ho. You cant tell me an "extenuating circumstance" didnt completely change the Watson situation, LOL cmon man be fair...

have to agree with NorCal on this one. the ransom the Texans were asking was unrealistic therefore a pipe dream. journalists got the public all ramped up on this. now if the accusers are up to 22 today, which is what is being reported, then maybe his value is decreased. I think Watson now is saying hmmm my contract in Houston isn't so bad and maybe I should just shut my mouth and go to camp and play hard??? doubt he will do that but would be nice.

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 7:42 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 7:36 am I dont know either? He isnt coming here to start. He provides another element for opposing defenses to think about on the 15 to 20 snaps he plays on. Also adds a punt returner.

He's the Ricky Proehl of the offense. The vet player that is used in certain situations and packages.

That he has played 8 games in 2 years maybe?

If the rams lose their 4th wr to IR is that the end of the season? I still don't get the risk?

Ants wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 7:50 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 6:07 pm Yup

We got an IR resident.
Look, I like the guy WHEN HE'S HEALTHY...which is almost never at this point.
I can relate to his situation...and true, it's only 1 year. So I'm not really complaining. I'm just seriously questioning how much use we will get out of him.

Worst case scenario D Jack gets injured early and the rams 4th wr goes to IR? Best case scenario, D Jack plays a entire year and brings a missing big play element to the rams offense and punt return unit.

Again why not take the risk on a 1 yr deal?

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:40 am

ocram23 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:19 am have to agree with NorCal on this one. the ransom the Texans were asking was unrealistic therefore a pipe dream. journalists got the public all ramped up on this. now if the accusers are up to 22 today, which is what is being reported, then maybe his value is decreased. I think Watson now is saying hmmm my contract in Houston isn't so bad and maybe I should just shut my mouth and go to camp and play hard??? doubt he will do that but would be nice.

Bottom Line. Watson was DEFINITELY being dealt up to the point of allegations. He might still be dealt but all bets are off. This extenuating circumstance of course changes everything. And if sexual crimes hadn't been committed I would have been right again, as usual.

Big assumption on your part prior to the charges. listening to the guys who do this for a living the good ones all come back to the same conclusion:
1. what GM out there is going to give up that much capital
2. Houston would never agree to high number 1's in return which limits the teams he would have gone to i.e. NY or Miami

Now he may still get traded because now Houston may not want anything to do with him after all this crap. Tell you what can't wait for the draft. going to be crazy

DMRamFan wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:42 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:38 am Worst case scenario D Jack gets injured early and the rams 4th wr goes to IR? Best case scenario, D Jack plays a entire year and brings a missing big play element to the rams offense and punt return unit.

Again why not take the risk on a 1 yr deal?

I think some of us guys who have trepidation here is simply that we are hoping his contract fits the signing. If it’s small, then I’m ok w it. If we can get 10-12 games out of him, why not.
We just have to be very careful w our finances

It's definitely a 1 year deal. The rams released that part of the deal so far

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:48 am

ocram23 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:44 am Big assumption on your part prior to the charges. listening to the guys who do this for a living the good ones all come back to the same conclusion:
1. what GM out there is going to give up that much capital
2. Houston would never agree to high number 1's in return which limits the teams he would have gone to i.e. NY or Miami

Now he may still get traded because now Houston may not want anything to do with him after all this crap. Tell you what can't wait for the draft. going to be crazy

What GM is going to give up that much capital? Um Carolina or Chicago or Denver EASILY. Jets or Miami possibly as well. Told ya, stop listening to old bastards who are threatened by new and radical ideas. His trade was a DONE DEAL. Now? Not so much, (as stated)

Bears were never in it so let's stop with putting them in here. they had nothing to offer and multiple sources said that.
as Peter King, yes he knows more than you..sorry, eloquently put the other day let's just say for example it's 3 1's. Houston would never agree to just 3 because any team getting him, outside of NY, will get better therefore making that pick less attractive. Houston wants players and draft capital and when I say players I am talking impact players. Only team IMO that makes sense now is NY. Darnold has to be in the trade and they get at least 4 1's in return.
Now with all this shit going on with him his price is going down fast and the question now is what does Houston do???

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:35 am

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 7:42 am That he has played 8 games in 2 years maybe?

If the rams lose their 4th wr to IR is that the end of the season? I still don't get the risk?

The risk is what are they paying him for what has been relatively no production the past two years? $$ numbers I have not heard.

Two is him now on roster going to take plays from Jefferson? Better not IMO. Also does this team have potentially something in Trishton Jackson that we now may not see?

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:40 am

ocram23 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:19 am have to agree with NorCal on this one. the ransom the Texans were asking was unrealistic therefore a pipe dream. journalists got the public all ramped up on this. now if the accusers are up to 22 today, which is what is being reported, then maybe his value is decreased. I think Watson now is saying hmmm my contract in Houston isn't so bad and maybe I should just shut my mouth and go to camp and play hard??? doubt he will do that but would be nice.

Bottom Line. Watson was DEFINITELY being dealt up to the point of allegations. He might still be dealt but all bets are off. This extenuating circumstance of course changes everything. And if sexual crimes hadn't been committed I would have been right again, as usual.

Right again as usual? I’m still not bringing attention to myself on being correct that a certain player was movable but only if you included a 1st round pick. One should not be so full of themselves..................

And the “definitely” being dealt is sill not shared by all. Just one posters opinion...........

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 9:28 am

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 9:22 am The risk is what are they paying him for what has been relatively no production the past two years? $$ numbers I have not heard.

Two is him now on roster going to take plays from Jefferson? Better not IMO. Also does this team have potentially something in Trishton Jackson that we now may not see?

I think we'll let Sean sort that out and deal with that.

That’s fine but he did ask what’s the risk..............

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:42 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:38 am Worst case scenario D Jack gets injured early and the rams 4th wr goes to IR? Best case scenario, D Jack plays a entire year and brings a missing big play element to the rams offense and punt return unit.

Again why not take the risk on a 1 yr deal?

People just LOVE to complain. To the point of faulty reasoning clouding good judgment. As you say Cornell this signing is low-risk high-reward, and end of story. Nothing to see here.

And people love others to agree with them, including me, even when some don’t............

ocram23 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:44 am

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:40 am Bottom Line. Watson was DEFINITELY being dealt up to the point of allegations. He might still be dealt but all bets are off. This extenuating circumstance of course changes everything. And if sexual crimes hadn't been committed I would have been right again, as usual.

Big assumption on your part prior to the charges. listening to the guys who do this for a living the good ones all come back to the same conclusion:
1. what GM out there is going to give up that much capital
2. Houston would never agree to high number 1's in return which limits the teams he would have gone to i.e. NY or Miami

Now he may still get traded because now Houston may not want anything to do with him after all this crap. Tell you what can't wait for the draft. going to be crazy

Big assumption agree!

Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:48 am

ocram23 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:44 am Big assumption on your part prior to the charges. listening to the guys who do this for a living the good ones all come back to the same conclusion:
1. what GM out there is going to give up that much capital
2. Houston would never agree to high number 1's in return which limits the teams he would have gone to i.e. NY or Miami

Now he may still get traded because now Houston may not want anything to do with him after all this crap. Tell you what can't wait for the draft. going to be crazy

What GM is going to give up that much capital? Um Carolina or Chicago or Denver EASILY. Jets or Miami possibly as well. Told ya, stop listening to old bastards who are threatened by new and radical ideas. His trade was a DONE DEAL. Now? Not so much, (as stated)

Done deal? Come on Mike this is where you get way over the top in the wrong way. You have absolutely no proof whatsoever that he was about to get traded. None!

NorCal RF wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 9:22 am

Cornell29 wrote: ↑March 22nd, 2021, 8:35 am If the rams lose their 4th wr to IR is that the end of the season? I still don't get the risk?

The risk is what are they paying him for what has been relatively no production the past two years? $$ numbers I have not heard.

Two is him now on roster going to take plays from Jefferson? Better not IMO. Also does this team have potentially something in Trishton Jackson that we now may not see?

Paying him on a one year deal is a risk? Imo the reward is better than the risk on a one year deal.

Why you think he will take plays from VJ. They are two different type of wrs. If he is even able to take plays from wrs that means he is playing healthy and contributing. Thats a good thing.

No matter who the Rams brought in there was risk of taking away snaps from other wrs. Even if they simply resigned JR.

At least D Jack is the 4th wr, and brings a unique skillet.

Low risk high reward move imo
Something more I am missing with this move. I never seen so much debate over a depth move for a 4th wr.