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Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 7:47 pm**

Confusion abound

Bad scheme

Should Robert Rochelle ever cover Metcalf one on one without safety help

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 7:59 pm**

I agree he has to go, but wait and see the delusional supporters

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:21 pm**

chris wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 7:59 pm I agree he has to go, but wait and see the delusional supporters

I don't think he has any. I was in wait and see mode, and now I see, that he sucks.

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:26 pm**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:21 pm
chris wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 7:59 pm I agree he has to go, but wait and see the delusional supporters
I don't think he has any. I was in wait and see mode, and now I see, that he sucks.

Hard to disagree. Although we know that he lacks talent in this secondary big time. Outside ramsey all the secondary is literally PURE GARBAGE

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:28 pm**

brasilrams wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:26 pm
Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:21 pm I don't think he has any. I was in wait and see mode, and now I see, that he sucks.
Hard to disagree. Although we know that he lack talent in this secondary big time. Outside ramsey all the secondary is literally PURE GARBAGE

Yes but Rochell one on one vs Metcalf was inexcusable.

Why do he keep running Rapp out there all game?

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:31 pm**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:28 pm
brasilrams wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:26 pm Hard to disagree. Although we know that he lack talent in this secondary big time. Outside ramsey all the secondary is literally PURE GARBAGE
Yes but Rochell one on one vs Metcalf was inexcusable.

Why do he keep running Rapp out there all game?

Yup that was unbelievable . He is trying to be too cute really . Ramsey should cover wr1 ALL GAME . Rapp is a big liability . But Fuller doesn't seem to be much better . I knew losing hill and JJ3 would hurt us but I didn't think it would hurt us THAT much . Combine losing those 2 , with a mediocre DC and there you go . Recipe for disaster . Watching their back up having all day to throw and picking that secondary apart was disgusting .

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:37 pm**

brasilrams wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:31 pm
Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:28 pm Yes but Rochell one on one vs Metcalf was inexcusable.

Why do he keep running Rapp out there all game?
Yup that was unbelievable . He is trying to be too cute really . Ramsey should cover wr1 ALL GAME . Rapp is a big liability . But Fuller doesn't seem to be much better . I knew losing hill and JJ3 would hurt us but I didn't think it would hurt us THAT much . Combine losing those 2 , with a mediocre DC and there you go . Recipe for disaster . Watching their back up having all day to throw and picking that secondary apart was disgusting .

JJ is missed

JJ >>> Rapp
2020 Fuller > 2021 Fuller
Hill > Long
Hill > Rochell

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:39 pm**

Hw sucks. McVAY had a gem in Staley and the Chargers noticed. If we could ever keep the good coordinators we could be a dynasty team. Lefleur, Staley, Zac Taylor..........We’ve been raped hard recently........

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:40 pm**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:37 pm
brasilrams wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:31 pm Yup that was unbelievable . He is trying to be too cute really . Ramsey should cover wr1 ALL GAME . Rapp is a big liability . But Fuller doesn't seem to be much better . I knew losing hill and JJ3 would hurt us but I didn't think it would hurt us THAT much . Combine losing those 2 , with a mediocre DC and there you go . Recipe for disaster . Watching their back up having all day to throw and picking that secondary apart was disgusting .
JJ is missed

JJ >>> Rapp
2020 Fuller > 2021 Fuller

Yup ... AND

2020 williams > 2021 williams

Maybe it is the scheme ..... too many players doing worse than last year ....has to be the scheme .

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:45 pm**

you can not make chicken salad out of chicken shit. The secondary is very young and lacking in talent IMO. that is why I thought the Gilmore signing would have been huge. Get used to this people because this is going to happen all year.

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:46 pm**

I guess Mcvay wanted to hire a DC that he didn't have to be worried about being stolen away.

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:55 pm**

ocram23 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:45 pm you can not make chicken salad out of chicken ***. The secondary is very young and lacking in talent IMO. that is why I thought the Gilmore signing would have been huge. Get used to this people because this is going to happen all year.

And they did hold them to 17 points.

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:56 pm**

brasilrams wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:31 pm
Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:28 pm Yes but Rochell one on one vs Metcalf was inexcusable.

Why do he keep running Rapp out there all game?
Yup that was unbelievable . He is trying to be too cute really . Ramsey should cover wr1 ALL GAME . Rapp is a big liability . But Fuller doesn't seem to be much better . I knew losing hill and JJ3 would hurt us but I didn't think it would hurt us THAT much . Combine losing those 2 , with a mediocre DC and there you go . Recipe for disaster . Watching their back up having all day to throw and picking that secondary apart was disgusting .

You are so clueless.

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:58 pm**

toast49 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:56 pm
brasilrams wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:31 pm Yup that was unbelievable . He is trying to be too cute really . Ramsey should cover wr1 ALL GAME . Rapp is a big liability . But Fuller doesn't seem to be much better . I knew losing hill and JJ3 would hurt us but I didn't think it would hurt us THAT much . Combine losing those 2 , with a mediocre DC and there you go . Recipe for disaster . Watching their back up having all day to throw and picking that secondary apart was disgusting .
You are so clueless.

gtfoh .

This is your place , go there and don't come back:

https://thedenforum.com/

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:58 pm**

NJRamfan1 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:55 pm
ocram23 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:45 pm you can not make chicken salad out of chicken ***. The secondary is very young and lacking in talent IMO. that is why I thought the Gilmore signing would have been huge. Get used to this people because this is going to happen all year.

And they did hold them to 17 points.

agree but come on Geno Smith hasn't played in 3 yrs. it is a win so we should all be happy

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 8:59 pm**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:46 pm I guess Mcvay wanted to hire a DC that he didn't have to be worried about being stolen away.

lol . that is sad but actually makes total sense

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 9:12 pm**

brasilrams wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:59 pm
Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:46 pm I guess Mcvay wanted to hire a DC that he didn't have to be worried about being stolen away.
lol . that is sad but actually makes total sense

Your fake news

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 9:46 pm**

NJRamfan1 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:55 pm
ocram23 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:45 pm you can not make chicken salad out of chicken ***. The secondary is very young and lacking in talent IMO. that is why I thought the Gilmore signing would have been huge. Get used to this people because this is going to happen all year.

And they did hold them to 17 points.

Overall it was a good performance but some of the matches, I just don't get. Rochell on Metcalf, with no help and with the game on the line? Huh?

Why is Rapp playing so much? His best hit was on D Williams.

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 10:02 pm**

NN1Badboy wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:39 pm Hw sucks. McVAY had a gem in Staley and the Chargers noticed. If we could ever keep the good coordinators we could be a dynasty team. Lefleur, Staley, Zac Taylor..........We’ve been raped hard recently........

Maybe that's McVay's new strategy. Hire sucky coordinators and they won't get poached.

Posted: **October 7th, 2021, 10:05 pm**

Cornell29 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:21 pm
chris wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 7:59 pm I agree he has to go, but wait and see the delusional supporters
I don't think he has any. I was in wait and see mode, and now I see, that he sucks.

The players need to step up and overcome the coordinator. Unfortunately he's not going anywhere until after the season.

Posted: **October 8th, 2021, 12:43 am**

Rochell is a rookie.. Still has a lot to learn, so don't beat him up just yet. I also remember he saved a TD against Lockett later on in the game.

Is it Morris or our DB's coach that does the personnel assignments in-game? Doesn't Morris just put the formation packages out there and it's the positional coaches that change the people and assignments.

Posted: **October 8th, 2021, 1:15 am**

HellRam wrote: ↑October 8th, 2021, 12:34 am The Rams are 13th ia PPG allowed after player the Bucs, Cards, Hawks in the first 5 weeks of the year. While I don't love the job Morris is doing, he hasn't been terrible. I think the issue fans are spoiled by our defense last year and its hard to accept that on paper we are just not that good anymore.

By season end well have a top 10 ish D. Which isn't great but far from terrible.

This defense will not finish top 10....I would put a forum buck on it

Fox showed the defense ranking at 27 last night...no way they climb from 27-10

Posted: **October 8th, 2021, 4:56 am**

ocram23 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:58 pm
NJRamfan1 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 8:55 pm
And they did hold them to 17 points.
agree but come on Geno Smith hasn't played in 3 yrs. it is a win so we should all be happy

Doesn't matter who the QB is if they are making the throws. Geno was making the throws yesterday

Posted: **October 8th, 2021, 7:18 am**

I think I feel worse with this game on D side. They had some moments. DL looked ok- prob because AD showed up big. Floyd looked great. Lewis looked ok. But man we won't go far with this DC and secondary/LB group. As I said before I think- you can move Rochelle in (you almost have to after Long's play), but he's a rookie and prob not the best answer. He can improve, but he will be targeted and beat by good teams.

The middle looks open. Sloppy tackles again. Rapp just needs to be benched- I have no idea why Burgess is in the doghouse. He could still be slow with that ankle? If not, there's something going on because he was plain good last year. Fuller regressed, DW regressed. This I put on the DC. ILB are mediocre. AR and SJD and Gaines need to be better on the DL.

I know we won- but feel worse for some reason. Not trying to be a downer.Just a gut feel.It's Raheem.

Posted: **October 8th, 2021, 7:32 am**

RAMFAN71 wrote: ↑October 8th, 2021, 7:18 am I think I feel worse with this game on D side. They had some moments. DL looked ok- prob because AD showed up big. Floyd looked great. Lewis looked ok. But man we won't go far with this DC and secondary/LB group. As I said before I think- you can move Rochelle in (you almost have to after Long's play), but he's a rookie and prob not the best answer. He can improve, but he will be targeted and beat by good teams.

The middle looks open. Sloppy tackles again. Rapp just needs to be benched- I have no idea why Burgess is in the doghouse. He could still be slow with that ankle? If not, there's something going on because he was plain good last year. Fuller regressed, DW regressed. This I put on the DC. ILB are mediocre. AR and SJD and Gaines need to be better on the DL.

I know we won- but feel worse for some reason. Not trying to be a downer.Just a gut feel.It's Raheem.

There is definitely some issues. Rapp needs to get out of there.

Lewis been better then OK

Posted: **October 8th, 2021, 8:28 am**

Aikman nailed it last night when he said no offense goes 98 yards on the Rams D last year…………

Pass coverage is garbage period. No one can cover anyone between DB’s n LB’s other than Ramsey.

McVay has a new big time concern on what will prevent him for winning it all and this year and this year it’s more than one player……….

Posted: **October 8th, 2021, 8:49 am**

NorCal RF wrote: ↑October 8th, 2021, 8:28 am Aikman nailed it last night when he said no offense goes 98 yards on the Rams D last year…………

Pass coverage is garbage period. No one can cover anyone between DB’s n LB’s other than Ramsey.

McVay has a new big time concern on what will prevent him for winning it all and this year and this year it’s more than one player……….

another head scratcher is Morris's scheme to not match Ramsey up with their #1. that worked last year. I thought Ramsey vs Metcalf would have been must see TV and more importantly maybe Ramsey would have limited him to only 1 TD. Yes I know Metcalf did score one on Ramsey. Just don't understand why Morris won't do that. He has Williams trying to guard Metalf which is silly

Posted: **October 8th, 2021, 9:00 am**

This change either has not gelled yet, or it is just a step in the wrong direction. Morris IMO should have not tinkered with last season's #1. The loss of JJ and Hill may have forced it, but maybe not. DW and Fuller are playing much worse....and Rapp too. And again, our ILB cannot cover. So.....add it all up and theres gonna be problems.

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