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Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 6:57 pm
by harkin

Bottom post of the previous page:

Pokes get Micah Parsons plus Eagles 3rd rounder for dropping two spots.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 8:08 pm
by Commish
toast49 wrote: April 29th, 2021, 6:14 pm Wow, Goff is going to have a great line in front of him
Yes, he has to be happy with the Lions drafting him protection rather than competition... :) 8-) :geek:

ram pathos...

--The Commish

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 9:06 pm
by KBLOCK
Interesting. All of the Centers are still available.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 9:21 pm
by My2Cents
What am I missing? They have a guy who clearly struggled when he played center and a couple other guys who haven't played a snap at the position as your guy in a key position with the need to protect the guy you just sold the farm for?

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 9:58 pm
by NorCal RF
ocram23 wrote: April 29th, 2021, 5:53 pm damn 49ers go with Lance
Was listening to Chris Landry from yesterday on a podcast tonight on way home. Said after Lawrence at 1 the rest of the QB group in this draft would all be drafted after Sam Darnold at Darnold’s current play. He said think about that. He said the entire group other than Lawrence has been over rated simply because they play QB.

I think in due time we here are all going to be very pleased that the Niners made the trade they did with Miami and drafted who they did today.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 9:58 pm
by crazy-legs
My2Cents wrote: April 29th, 2021, 9:21 pm
What am I missing? They have a guy who clearly struggled when he played center and a couple other guys who haven't played a snap at the position as your guy in a key position with the need to protect the guy you just sold the farm for?
Hopefully it's a smokescreen - we've needed to draft a Center going on 12 or 13 years now...

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 9:58 pm
by NorCal RF
ocram23 wrote: April 29th, 2021, 6:01 pm Bengals obviously don't care about protecting Burrows
Agree. Stupid.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 9:59 pm
by NorCal RF
Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: April 29th, 2021, 6:12 pm Goff gets good protection. Holmes all in on JG.
Good pick iIMO.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 6:35 am
by D-GenerationX
NorCal RF wrote: April 29th, 2021, 9:59 pm
Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: April 29th, 2021, 6:12 pm Goff gets good protection. Holmes all in on JG.
Good pick iIMO.
It was a great pick. We know better than anyone what Jared can do with a clean pocket.

Perhaps even more to the point, we see how he struggles without it. That kid is a stud and should keep people out of Goff's face.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 6:36 am
by ocram23
NorCal RF wrote: April 29th, 2021, 9:59 pm
Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: April 29th, 2021, 6:12 pm Goff gets good protection. Holmes all in on JG.
Good pick iIMO.
that was a great pick by Detroit. Not sexy but solid.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 6:38 am
by ocram23
NorCal RF wrote: April 29th, 2021, 9:58 pm
ocram23 wrote: April 29th, 2021, 5:53 pm damn 49ers go with Lance
Was listening to Chris Landry from yesterday on a podcast tonight on way home. Said after Lawrence at 1 the rest of the QB group in this draft would all be drafted after Sam Darnold at Darnold’s current play. He said think about that. He said the entire group other than Lawrence has been over rated simply because they play QB.

I think in due time we here are all going to be very pleased that the Niners made the trade they did with Miami and drafted who they did today.
Colin Cowherd called this a while ago. SF never lets anything leak out of their front office. He went on to say it was weird to him that all of a sudden everyone was saying Jones to the 49ers. Listened to Lynch and Shannahan last night on ESPN and they knew in January that Lance was their guy. Who knows if Lance is going to do anything in the NFL but I like the way Lynch and Shannahan work.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 6:53 am
by Bulldawg
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 6:38 am
NorCal RF wrote: April 29th, 2021, 9:58 pm Was listening to Chris Landry from yesterday on a podcast tonight on way home. Said after Lawrence at 1 the rest of the QB group in this draft would all be drafted after Sam Darnold at Darnold’s current play. He said think about that. He said the entire group other than Lawrence has been over rated simply because they play QB.

I think in due time we here are all going to be very pleased that the Niners made the trade they did with Miami and drafted who they did today.
Colin Cowherd called this a while ago. SF never lets anything leak out of their front office. He went on to say it was weird to him that all of a sudden everyone was saying Jones to the 49ers. Listened to Lynch and Shannahan last night on ESPN and they knew in January that Lance was their guy. Who knows if Lance is going to do anything in the NFL but I like the way Lynch and Shannahan work.
They must see something in him. He wasn't even a 4 star prospect in high school. Did not even have any major college scholarship offers. I sure hope this is a swing and a miss.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 6:55 am
by ocram23
Bulldawg wrote: April 30th, 2021, 6:53 am
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 6:38 am Colin Cowherd called this a while ago. SF never lets anything leak out of their front office. He went on to say it was weird to him that all of a sudden everyone was saying Jones to the 49ers. Listened to Lynch and Shannahan last night on ESPN and they knew in January that Lance was their guy. Who knows if Lance is going to do anything in the NFL but I like the way Lynch and Shannahan work.
They must see something in him. He wasn't even a 4 star prospect in high school. Did not even have any major college scholarship offers. I sure hope this is a swing and a miss.
me too. I think they are going to take it slow because JG is still there. time will tell

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 7:40 am
by NorCal RF
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 6:38 am
NorCal RF wrote: April 29th, 2021, 9:58 pm Was listening to Chris Landry from yesterday on a podcast tonight on way home. Said after Lawrence at 1 the rest of the QB group in this draft would all be drafted after Sam Darnold at Darnold’s current play. He said think about that. He said the entire group other than Lawrence has been over rated simply because they play QB.

I think in due time we here are all going to be very pleased that the Niners made the trade they did with Miami and drafted who they did today.
Colin Cowherd called this a while ago. SF never lets anything leak out of their front office. He went on to say it was weird to him that all of a sudden everyone was saying Jones to the 49ers. Listened to Lynch and Shannahan last night on ESPN and they knew in January that Lance was their guy. Who knows if Lance is going to do anything in the NFL but I like the way Lynch and Shannahan work.
As far as keeping things close to the vest sure. But............

Everything leading up to last night sorry wasn’t really well thought out by them. It could not have been considering we all know they called GB Wednesday night. They obviously had no feel whatsoever what was going on with Rodgers and GB. Sure one can say no one did but most teams didn’t trade 3 first round picks to move up to 3 so they could draft a QB with what 17 total starts in his career instead of maybe this morning having Aaron Rodgers as your starting QB. My feeling is that war room in Santa Clara is kicking themselves hard right now.

Hey Lance could end up damn good. But I think Landry’s comments makes one think about how over talked and over rated the position continues to be with the draft every year. There were better players talent wise on the board when Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Jones were drafted. No different than when Goff and Wentz were drafted.

Just glad our team “settled” for Stafford while Niners backed themselves into a corner IMO on a QB that played a college schedule that he did and has played 17 games as a QB. Barely a season. By the time he is ready I question who on the niner roster may no longer be.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 7:56 am
by Ants
Ants wrote: April 29th, 2021, 4:53 pm For us at 57 - I'm going with one of the following:

Peyton Turner - edge
Rashad Weaver - edge
Patrick Johnson - edge
Creed Humphry - OL
Eric Stokes - CB
Josh Palmer - WR...yeah, I know - why draft a WR. Still, he could be worth the pick.
8-)
:shock:
2 of these guys are gone ALREADY! :?

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 7:58 am
by ocram23
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 7:40 am
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 6:38 am Colin Cowherd called this a while ago. SF never lets anything leak out of their front office. He went on to say it was weird to him that all of a sudden everyone was saying Jones to the 49ers. Listened to Lynch and Shannahan last night on ESPN and they knew in January that Lance was their guy. Who knows if Lance is going to do anything in the NFL but I like the way Lynch and Shannahan work.
As far as keeping things close to the vest sure. But............

Everything leading up to last night sorry wasn’t really well thought out by them. It could not have been considering we all know they called GB Wednesday night. They obviously had no feel whatsoever what was going on with Rodgers and GB. Sure one can say no one did but most teams didn’t trade 3 first round picks to move up to 3 so they could draft a QB with what 17 total starts in his career instead of maybe this morning having Aaron Rodgers as your starting QB. My feeling is that war room in Santa Clara is kicking themselves hard right now.

Hey Lance could end up damn good. But I think Landry’s comments makes one think about how over talked and over rated the position continues to be with the draft every year. There were better players talent wise on the board when Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Jones were drafted. No different than when Goff and Wentz were drafted.

Just glad our team “settled” for Stafford while Niners backed themselves into a corner IMO on a QB that played a college schedule that he did and has played 17 games as a QB. Barely a season. By the time he is ready I question who on the niner roster may no longer be.
they had to make that call to GB you would be an idiot not to. Not a Keyshawn fan but as he said this morning I would have traded 6 1's for Rodgers because he is that good. Bottom line is they made the call and GB wasn't budging so they went with their pick. was it the right pick?? nobody will know for 2-3 years IMO.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 8:01 am
by toast49
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 7:40 am
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 6:38 am Colin Cowherd called this a while ago. SF never lets anything leak out of their front office. He went on to say it was weird to him that all of a sudden everyone was saying Jones to the 49ers. Listened to Lynch and Shannahan last night on ESPN and they knew in January that Lance was their guy. Who knows if Lance is going to do anything in the NFL but I like the way Lynch and Shannahan work.
As far as keeping things close to the vest sure. But............

Everything leading up to last night sorry wasn’t really well thought out by them. It could not have been considering we all know they called GB Wednesday night. They obviously had no feel whatsoever what was going on with Rodgers and GB. Sure one can say no one did but most teams didn’t trade 3 first round picks to move up to 3 so they could draft a QB with what 17 total starts in his career instead of maybe this morning having Aaron Rodgers as your starting QB. My feeling is that war room in Santa Clara is kicking themselves hard right now.

Hey Lance could end up damn good. But I think Landry’s comments makes one think about how over talked and over rated the position continues to be with the draft every year. There were better players talent wise on the board when Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Jones were drafted. No different than when Goff and Wentz were drafted.

Just glad our team “settled” for Stafford while Niners backed themselves into a corner IMO on a QB that played a college schedule that he did and has played 17 games as a QB. Barely a season. By the time he is ready I question who on the niner roster may no longer be.
Yeah. Could be a huge mistake by San Fran. Let's hope :D

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 8:25 am
by NorCal RF
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 7:58 am
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 7:40 am As far as keeping things close to the vest sure. But............

Everything leading up to last night sorry wasn’t really well thought out by them. It could not have been considering we all know they called GB Wednesday night. They obviously had no feel whatsoever what was going on with Rodgers and GB. Sure one can say no one did but most teams didn’t trade 3 first round picks to move up to 3 so they could draft a QB with what 17 total starts in his career instead of maybe this morning having Aaron Rodgers as your starting QB. My feeling is that war room in Santa Clara is kicking themselves hard right now.

Hey Lance could end up damn good. But I think Landry’s comments makes one think about how over talked and over rated the position continues to be with the draft every year. There were better players talent wise on the board when Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Jones were drafted. No different than when Goff and Wentz were drafted.

Just glad our team “settled” for Stafford while Niners backed themselves into a corner IMO on a QB that played a college schedule that he did and has played 17 games as a QB. Barely a season. By the time he is ready I question who on the niner roster may no longer be.
they had to make that call to GB you would be an idiot not to. Not a Keyshawn fan but as he said this morning I would have traded 6 1's for Rodgers because he is that good. Bottom line is they made the call and GB wasn't budging so they went with their pick. was it the right pick?? nobody will know for 2-3 years IMO.
JMO oc but Rodgers is a niner this morning if Miami didn’t have their 1st round picks the next two years. Oh they had to make the call agree but they also know now they probably screwed the goose in making that trade with Miami.

2-3 years from now agree. Question is who is going to still be on that niner roster then. We know who would have been this year with Rodgers.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 8:27 am
by ocram23
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 8:25 am
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 7:58 am they had to make that call to GB you would be an idiot not to. Not a Keyshawn fan but as he said this morning I would have traded 6 1's for Rodgers because he is that good. Bottom line is they made the call and GB wasn't budging so they went with their pick. was it the right pick?? nobody will know for 2-3 years IMO.
JMO oc but Rodgers is a niner this morning if Miami didn’t have their 1st round picks the next two years. Oh they had to make the call agree but they also know now they probably screwed the goose in making that trade with Miami.

2-3 years from now agree. Question is who is going to still be on that niner roster then. We know who would have been this year with Rodgers.
SF makes the trade today still if GB comes back to them saying I want XYZ. he is that good

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 9:01 am
by ocram23
Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: April 30th, 2021, 8:54 am I still say there's a chance Rodgers gets traded to Denver, Post June 1. Maybe Surtain who they just Drafted gets sent back along with the Multiple 1sts.
I agree with you but GB just took a CB with their 1st round...Watching some of the shows this morning the concern out of GB is Love is STILL not ready for prime time. Let's face it the GM shit the bed in GB with they drafted Love and didn't tell Rodgers this.
Not sure how GB can fix this. They have visited Rodgers on multiple occasions without positively moving forward. At this point you have to trade him.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 9:03 am
by NorCal RF
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 8:27 am
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 8:25 am JMO oc but Rodgers is a niner this morning if Miami didn’t have their 1st round picks the next two years. Oh they had to make the call agree but they also know now they probably screwed the goose in making that trade with Miami.

2-3 years from now agree. Question is who is going to still be on that niner roster then. We know who would have been this year with Rodgers.
SF makes the trade today still if GB comes back to them saying I want XYZ. he is that good
And without those picks xyz is coming from their current roster. And 95% of that current roster isn’t getting such a trade done. We know who that 5% is and if the Niners want to offer those players in a trade then please do I say.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 9:27 am
by ocram23
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:03 am
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 8:27 am SF makes the trade today still if GB comes back to them saying I want XYZ. he is that good
And without those picks xyz is coming from their current roster. And 95% of that current roster isn’t getting such a trade done. We know who that 5% is and if the Niners want to offer those players in a trade then please do I say.
XYZ could be future picks as well along with 1 impact player.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 9:31 am
by ocram23
Mike Schad 1st Rd wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:11 am
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:01 am I agree with you but GB just took a CB with their 1st round...Watching some of the shows this morning the concern out of GB is Love is STILL not ready for prime time. Let's face it the GM shit the bed in GB with they drafted Love and didn't tell Rodgers this.
Not sure how GB can fix this. They have visited Rodgers on multiple occasions without positively moving forward. At this point you have to trade him.
Yeah, I think Rodgers never takes another snap for them. You know they would wanna deal him to the AFC if they're forced to deal him. Wonder who it may be. Could very well be Vegas, especially if they're still flush with Draft Picks (not sure). How bout Houston straight up (more or less) for Watson? Whoever it is it would be great to lose Aaron from the Conference.
the Broncos are the obvious choice right now but I forget who said it this morning but almost every team in the NFL, within reason, is in play. Not a fan of Max Kellerman but he said if Cleveland traded for him they would be the favorite to win the SB today. Consider this: #1 ranked OL in football, 2 stud RB's, solid WR crew, solid D too. Schefty said this morning that this story could have been announced a month ago it has been this bad and he went on to say the Rodgers was not happy it got out yesterday because he cares about his teammates and doesn't want to have to address his teammates now. Is Lance on the move to GB???

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 9:54 am
by Truth
If I was a 49ers fan I’d be upset. You take a D2 QB that’s had 1 good season at that level.

I think the Patriots got the best QB. I watch lot of SEC football. There’s no difference in Mac Jones and Joe Burrow

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 9:56 am
by ocram23
Truth wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:54 am If I was a 49ers fan I’d be upset. You take a D2 QB that’s had 1 good season at that level.

I think the Patriots got the best QB. I watch lot of SEC football. There’s no difference in Mac Jones and Joe Burrow
I agree I thought Lance was a huge risk as well. Not sure I would have made that trade to move up to take Jones either. I think they could have stayed at 12 and taken Jones if that was what they really wanted to do.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 10:04 am
by NorCal RF
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:27 am
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:03 am And without those picks xyz is coming from their current roster. And 95% of that current roster isn’t getting such a trade done. We know who that 5% is and if the Niners want to offer those players in a trade then please do I say.
XYZ could be future picks as well along with 1 impact player.
What 2024 and 2025 picks? LaFleur and Gutekeunst knows if they did that they would be making that trade for the next HC and GM.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 10:10 am
by NorCal RF
Truth wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:54 am If I was a 49ers fan I’d be upset. You take a D2 QB that’s had 1 good season at that level.

I think the Patriots got the best QB. I watch lot of SEC football. There’s no difference in Mac Jones and Joe Burrow
I agree with this.

Fact is the way the draft went last night they could have stayed at 12 and still got one of the QB’s. Or at worst did the trade that Chicago did last night.

Yes trade could work out for Niners but this morning I think Shanahan and Lynch are looking like idiots.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 10:11 am
by NorCal RF
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:56 am
Truth wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:54 am If I was a 49ers fan I’d be upset. You take a D2 QB that’s had 1 good season at that level.

I think the Patriots got the best QB. I watch lot of SEC football. There’s no difference in Mac Jones and Joe Burrow
I agree I thought Lance was a huge risk as well. Not sure I would have made that trade to move up to take Jones either. I think they could have stayed at 12 and taken Jones if that was what they really wanted to do.
This!!!!

Sorry didn’t know you said what I just said in my reply to trust.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 10:18 am
by ocram23
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 10:11 am
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 9:56 am I agree I thought Lance was a huge risk as well. Not sure I would have made that trade to move up to take Jones either. I think they could have stayed at 12 and taken Jones if that was what they really wanted to do.
This!!!!

Sorry didn’t know you said what I just said in my reply to trust.
Chris Simms said something this morning that I agree with. I know some of you don't like him but he said this. In his opinion SF traded up to take Jones because Carolina and NE was rumored to be enamored with him. But after doing their due diligence they changed their minds and went with Lance. I could see this happening and I do believe they made a hard push for Rodgers too. I think they allow JG play until they think Lance is ready.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 10:40 am
by NorCal RF
ocram23 wrote: April 30th, 2021, 10:18 am
NorCal RF wrote: April 30th, 2021, 10:11 am This!!!!

Sorry didn’t know you said what I just said in my reply to trust.
Chris Simms said something this morning that I agree with. I know some of you don't like him but he said this. In his opinion SF traded up to take Jones because Carolina and NE was rumored to be enamored with him. But after doing their due diligence they changed their minds and went with Lance. I could see this happening and I do believe they made a hard push for Rodgers too. I think they allow JG play until they think Lance is ready.
I don’t see where they have a choice in regards to the JG comment.

I heard up here this morning that JG reached out last night to Lance. I suspect JG will be the “company guy” in helping him knowing he isn’t losing his starting job this year.

Re: Draft Day Thread

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 10:46 am
by NorCal RF
Andrew Brandt
@AndrewBrandt
The 49ers gave up more for Trey Lance than:
the Bears gave up for Khalil Mack,
the Texans gave up for Laremy Tunsil,
the Rams gave up for Jalen Ramsey,
the Cardinals gave up for DeAndre Hopkins.