Shula/ Defense Not Respected Enough!!!

[HellRam]

Bottom post of the previous page:

We have given up an average of 30+ per game the last 4 games iirc .. hardly a "stout" defense ..

Anyone with half a brain can see this defense sucks.

Anyone with half a brain can understand metrics

Stop insulting yourself.

[HellRam]

comparatively we are a very complete team i think the defensive backfield is limiting

Sure....

Nobody would disagree with that.

[brasilrams]

Keep throwing those stupid stats that the rams d was able to achieve when facing pathetic qbs. I prefer to watch what happens when they face real qbs and real offenses.... and what happens is that they look like shit just like they looked last game. Last 4 games they allowed more than 30 points in 3 of them. But hey they are awesome. Lol

Stats matter! Feelings dont!

Outside of the Texans there are no elite defenses in this league. And even they gave up 21 today to the terrible Raiders.

Welcome to the modern NFL. Teams score! Atleast we have a team that does better than most.

Seriously now...I think the rams defense was much better when lake was there. The secondary has been pretty bad since he got hurt. And the defense overral declined their production a lot in the past month. Gotta consider the fact that they allowed 30 plus points in 3 of their last 4 games. That is not how you want to go into the playoffs. They are not the same stout defense that we saw back in September / October. The past month they have been really bad.

[brasilrams]

Anyone with half a brain can see this defense sucks.

Anyone with half a brain can understand metrics

Stop insulting yourself.

Anyone with half a brain can understand that stats can be deceiving and they are not all that matters.

[HellRam]

Stats matter! Feelings dont!

Outside of the Texans there are no elite defenses in this league. And even they gave up 21 today to the terrible Raiders.

Welcome to the modern NFL. Teams score! Atleast we have a team that does better than most.

Seriously now...I think the rams defense was much better when lake was there. The secondary has been pretty bad since he got hurt. And the defense overral declined their production a lot in the past month. Gotta consider the fact that they allowed 30 plus points in 3 of their last 4 games. That is not how you want to go into the playoffs. They are not the same stout defense that we saw back in September / October. The past month they have been really bad.

See....that's called nuance. I can agree they have declined. But saying a top 10 unit "sucks" is something I can't agree with.

Denver gave up 34 today. Do they suck now?

This is how today's NFL operates.

[brasilrams]

Seriously now...I think the rams defense was much better when lake was there. The secondary has been pretty bad since he got hurt. And the defense overral declined their production a lot in the past month. Gotta consider the fact that they allowed 30 plus points in 3 of their last 4 games. That is not how you want to go into the playoffs. They are not the same stout defense that we saw back in September / October. The past month they have been really bad.

See....that's called nuance. I can agree they have declined. But saying a top 10 unit "sucks" is something I can't agree with.

Denver gave up 34 today. Do they suck now?

This is how today's NFL operates.

I mean they suck now, it doesn't mean they sucked for the entire season ( it is a long season) but lately they have been sucking a fat one! And I add : if they don't improve the secondary ( somehow) we are one and done in the playoffs.

[HellRam]

See....that's called nuance. I can agree they have declined. But saying a top 10 unit "sucks" is something I can't agree with.

Denver gave up 34 today. Do they suck now?

This is how today's NFL operates.

I mean they suck now, it doesn't mean they sucked for the entire season ( it is a long season) but lately they have been sucking a fat one! And I add : if they don't improve the secondary ( somehow) we are one and done in the playoffs.

Yeah I don't agree with that.

All teams have weaknesses.

[brasilrams]

I mean they suck now, it doesn't mean they sucked for the entire season ( it is a long season) but lately they have been sucking a fat one! And I add : if they don't improve the secondary ( somehow) we are one and done in the playoffs.

Yeah I don't agree with that.

All teams have weaknesses.

I agree with the fact that all teams have weaknesses . Ours might just be too much to overcome , defense is not good right now and special teams ranks DEAD LAST . Took forever for Mcvay to fire his buddy Chase and now it might be too late . St's cost us directly AT LEAST 3 out of our 4 losses .

[SoCalRam78]

Rams defense predicated on stopping run and pass rush to accommodate weak corners. Their defense can be had. It’s an okay unit. They’ve padded their “stats”’against crappy teams.

[malibu]

To the eye test we have not been as stout on defense in the last month plus.

We have given up an average of 30+ per game the last 4 games iirc .. hardly a "stout" defense ..

I said not stout in last month

[HellRam]

Rams defense predicated on stopping run and. Pass rush not accommodate weak corners. Their defense can be had. It’s an okay unit. They’ve padded their “stats”’against crappy teams.

Rams have had the 2nd hardest strength of schedule.

You want to see stat padding? Look at Denver or New England.

[GlendoraRam]

They still don’t close out games very well, no lead is safe with this defense. Last week proved that again.

[HellRam]

Here's the thing....

Other than Houston.

Who has a better D than the Rams? I mean seriously..

Yes, they've had some tough games of late where they didn't play the best. Albiet the Seattle game looked worse than it was. Through 5 QTRs of football the defense had only given up 23 points till that terrible final drive in OT. The punt return TD was fault of special teams.

[GlendoraRam]

My concern is come playoffs, against good teams, they don’t seem to close games out.
Maybe some of that is on the offense because McVay tends to take his foot off the gas.

[SoCalRam78]

Other than Houston

Who has a better D than the Rams? I mean seriously..

Do you argue just to argue? Like every hill you’re on you must die on? We’ve gone over this w the Goff argument and I know you’re a stickler and close to vest of everything statistical. Is this take that the Rams have the second best defense in the NFL after Houston (I’m assuming by your statement)?

Rams are 7th in PPG and 15th in yards. Both those numbers have been in regression over the last month. How is a team w 15th in yards allowed the second best defense in the NFL? Or are we just going by what we believe in?

[HellRam]

Who has a better D than the Rams? I mean seriously..

Do you argue just to argue? Like every hill you’re on you must die on? We’ve gone over this w the Goff argument and I know you’re a stickler and close to vest of everything statistical. Is this take that the Rams have the second best defense in the NFL after Houston (I’m assuming by your statement)?

Rams are 7th in PPG and 15th in yards. Both those numbers have been in regression over the last month. How is a team w 15th in yards allowed the second best defense in the NFL? Or are we just going by what we believe in?

It's a football forum. Welcome to the world of debate.

You want to make a point? Answer the question....

[HellRam]

For arguments sake....

I'd have the Rams D probably after Houston, SEA and Philly. And even then its close. Maybe Denver but their schedule has been riddled with lots of really bad teams. But what wins game in this league is what the Rans do well and that's get after the QB. I would take a pass rush/ low point defense or a defense that limit yards.

[SoCalRam78]

Do you argue just to argue? Like every hill you’re on you must die on? We’ve gone over this w the Goff argument and I know you’re a stickler and close to vest of everything statistical. Is this take that the Rams have the second best defense in the NFL after Houston (I’m assuming by your statement)?

Rams are 7th in PPG and 15th in yards. Both those numbers have been in regression over the last month. How is a team w 15th in yards allowed the second best defense in the NFL? Or are we just going by what we believe in?

It's a football forum. Welcome to the world of debate.

You want to make a point? Answer the question....

Your debates are obtuse. “Rams have best defense other than Houston” is objectively false any way you want to slice it. But continue to argue with everyone even when you don't believe your own BS. Then re: Goff you’ll pull every obscure stat out of your rear to argue some point. You also never stop replying to every post until yours is last. Very pathological. Are you an attorney? Why posters are over your schtick. Have a good evening.

[HellRam]

For arguments sake....

I'd have the Rams D probably after Houston, SEA and Philly. And even then its close. Maybe Denver but their schedule has been riddled with lots of really bad teams. But what wins game in this league is what the Rans do well and that's get after the QB. I would take a pass rush/ low point defense or a defense that limit yards.

What's obtuse about this?

You don't even understand the definition of "obtuse". Lol.

Pot meet kettle.

[HellRam]

It's a football forum. Welcome to the world of debate.

You want to make a point? Answer the question....

Your debates are obtuse. “Rams have best defense other than Houston” is objectively false any way you want to slice it. But continue to argue with everyone even when you don't believe your own BS. Then re: Goff you’ll pull every obscure stat out of your rear to argue some point. You also never stop replying to every post until yours is last. Very pathological. Are you an attorney? Why posters are over your schtick. Have a good evening.

And like the Goff argument I was right.

Here's the problem with people like you....

You can't debate and you take anyone who disagrees with personally. You also can't accept that you're wrong when you are, so years later you continue to grasp at straws and pivot the discussion into whatever nonsense babble you think makes you sound intelligent. But it's not intelligent. Its deflection.

[SoCalRam78]

Your debates are obtuse. “Rams have best defense other than Houston” is objectively false any way you want to slice it. But continue to argue with everyone even when you don't believe your own BS. Then re: Goff you’ll pull every obscure stat out of your rear to argue some point. You also never stop replying to every post until yours is last. Very pathological. Are you an attorney? Why posters are over your schtick. Have a good evening.

And like the Goff argument I was right.

Here's the problem with people like you....

You can't debate and you take anyone who disagrees with personally. You also can't accept that you're wrong when you are, so years later you continue to grasp at straws and pivot the discussion into whatever nonsense babble you think makes you sound intelligent. But it's not intelligent. Its deflection.

Nobody likes you on this forum. That’s your problem

[HellRam]

And like the Goff argument I was right.

Here's the problem with people like you....

You can't debate and you take anyone who disagrees with personally. You also can't accept that you're wrong when you are, so years later you continue to grasp at straws and pivot the discussion into whatever nonsense babble you think makes you sound intelligent. But it's not intelligent. Its deflection.

Nobody likes you on this forum. That’s your problem

You literally proved me right!

And I couldn't care less. I think thats what actually bothers you people. I have a backbone to defend what I believe and I'm real. I'm not trying to be a fake friend to anyone.

Hilarious you think thats supposed to bother me. The contrary bud. I love it and that's why I stick around

[SoCalRam78]

Nobody likes you on this forum. That’s your problem

You literally proved me right!

And I couldn't care less. I think thats what actually bothers you people. I have a backbone to defend what I believe and I'm real. I'm not trying to be a fake friend to anyone.

Hilarious you think thats supposed to bother me. The contrary bud. I love it and that's why I stick around

I don’t care. Wasn’t involved in this thread until I noticed you posting your rage bait poor takes and trying to insult people. Go to TST. Bunch of losers there who are former St Louis fans who generally are anti Stafford and are overall negative about the Rams. JB Scott is the biggest douche there. I think that’s your home. Parting advice. Happy Holidays.

[HellRam]

You literally proved me right!

And I couldn't care less. I think thats what actually bothers you people. I have a backbone to defend what I believe and I'm real. I'm not trying to be a fake friend to anyone.

Hilarious you think thats supposed to bother me. The contrary bud. I love it and that's why I stick around

I don’t care. Wasn’t involved in this thread until I noticed you posting your rage bait poor takes and trying to insult people. Go to TST. Bunch of losers there who are former St Louis fans who generally are anti Stafford and are overall negative about the Rams. JB Scott is the biggest douche there. I think that’s your home. Parting advice. Happy Holidays.

Once again everything you said is false. I love Stafford. Tag me in a post where I said anything different?
I'm giving you the opportunity to back up your nonsense and you never do!

I'm not into reporting people. I think its lame. But you are litteraly trying to bully me off the board. And if the mods want to be fair to EVERYONE. Something should be done.

[HellRam]

Let's trigger the sensitive one's some more.....

The Rams are now officially 6th in PPG allowed

Go Rams!!!

[Rampager66]

I don’t care. Wasn’t involved in this thread until I noticed you posting your rage bait poor takes and trying to insult people. Go to TST. Bunch of losers there who are former St Louis fans who generally are anti Stafford and are overall negative about the Rams. JB Scott is the biggest douche there. I think that’s your home. Parting advice. Happy Holidays.

Once again everything you said is false. I love Stafford. Tag me in a post where I said anything different?
I'm giving you the opportunity to back up your nonsense and you never do!

I'm not into reporting people. I think its lame. But you are litteraly trying to bully me off the board. And if the mods want to be fair to EVERYONE. Something should be done.

I'm calling BULLSHIT here... You went right to the MOD and demanded 52 be banned....

[HellRam]

Once again everything you said is false. I love Stafford. Tag me in a post where I said anything different?
I'm giving you the opportunity to back up your nonsense and you never do!

I'm not into reporting people. I think its lame. But you are litteraly trying to bully me off the board. And if the mods want to be fair to EVERYONE. Something should be done.

I'm calling BULLSHIT here... You went right to the MOD and demanded 52 be banned....

Sure did! As did others!

He went over the line. He's been much better since.

[brasilrams]

I'm calling BULLSHIT here... You went right to the MOD and demanded 52 be banned....

Sure did! As did others!

He went over the line. He's been much better since.

So you said you’re not into reporting people, and now you’re saying ‘sure I did’? lol

Dude, everyone is fucking tired of your act here. If you enjoy being seen as the most annoying guy on this forum — like you just admitted — and that’s the reason you stick around, then you should tread carefully. You know even Glendora is getting tired of your shit.

And if he bans you, you won’t be able to enjoy all the ‘love’ you supposedly get around here from everyone.

[HellRam]

Sure did! As did others!

He went over the line. He's been much better since.

So you said you’re not into reporting people, and now you’re saying ‘sure I did’? lol

Dude, everyone is fucking tired of your act here. If you enjoy being seen as the most annoying guy on this forum — like you just admitted — and that’s the reason you stick around, then you should tread carefully. You know even Glendora is getting tired of your shit.

And if he bans you, you won’t be able to enjoy all the ‘love’ you supposedly get around here from everyone.

He was calling our teams "faggots".

If you're into that? That's fine.

Myself, NorCal and 10 other posters thought it wasn't necessary.

And now I'm going to report you for constant bullying and trying to bait me into getting "banned". Glendora has already said he's in charge. Not you!

The irony is the solution is so simple. Tired of my opinions and the right to have one. Ignore it! Explain to me in a rational matter whats so difficult with that? Both you and 78 have this wierd obsession over me. And we both know why.

[brasilrams]

So you said you’re not into reporting people, and now you’re saying ‘sure I did’? lol

Dude, everyone is fucking tired of your act here. If you enjoy being seen as the most annoying guy on this forum — like you just admitted — and that’s the reason you stick around, then you should tread carefully. You know even Glendora is getting tired of your shit.

And if he bans you, you won’t be able to enjoy all the ‘love’ you supposedly get around here from everyone.

He was calling our teams "faggots".

If you're into that? That's fine.

Myself, NorCal and 10 other posters thought it wasn't necessary.

And now I'm going to report you for constant bullying and trying to bait me into getting "banned". Glendora has already said he's in charge. Not you!

The irony is the solution is so simple. Tired of my opinions and the right to have one. Ignore it! Explain to me in a rational matter whats so difficult with that? Both you and 78 have this wierd obsession over me. And we both know why.

LOL, so now I’m trying to bait you???

You can report me as much as you want — I didn’t break any forum rules. I said you’re annoying, that’s it. And Glendora isn’t going to ban me for that, especially considering he didn’t ban you when you called a bunch of people far worse things.

[HellRam]

He was calling our teams "faggots".

If you're into that? That's fine.

Myself, NorCal and 10 other posters thought it wasn't necessary.

And now I'm going to report you for constant bullying and trying to bait me into getting "banned". Glendora has already said he's in charge. Not you!

The irony is the solution is so simple. Tired of my opinions and the right to have one. Ignore it! Explain to me in a rational matter whats so difficult with that? Both you and 78 have this wierd obsession over me. And we both know why.

LOL, so now I’m trying to bait you???

You can report me as much as you want — I didn’t break any forum rules. I said you’re annoying, that’s it. And Glendora isn’t going to ban me for that, especially considering he didn’t ban you when you called a bunch of people far worse things.

I don't want you banned! You have the right to an opinion. Why would I want you banned?

Just because you're a soft man doesn't mean I am. Just being real here.